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can't seem to track one down.
if there isn't i'd like to start one up.
i'll be 60 years of age and 28 years of mind by next year.
never too early too start one up.
no age limit.
let's rock.
if there isn't i'd like to start one up.
i'll be 60 years of age and 28 years of mind by next year.
never too early too start one up.
no age limit.
let's rock.
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Re: is there still a burner elders tribe out there?
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 3:18 PMwe burned them to keep the fire going, you volunteering? -
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Re: is there still a burner elders tribe out there?
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 3:26 PMThere is still an elders tribe at
burningelders.tribe.net/
but it has not had any activity since March 2007. If there is interest it would not be amiss to join it and send a few messages.
BTW, I'm also going to turn 60 before my next burn. I still like to boogie.
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Mon, October 5, 2009 - 5:13 PM"BTW, I'm also going to turn 60 before my next burn. I still like to boogie. "
Me too.
I also like to play a boogie.
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Re: is there still a burner elders tribe out there?
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 5:14 PM"There is still an elders tribe at
burningelders.tribe.net/
but it has not had any activity since March 2007. "
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Mon, October 5, 2009 - 5:30 PMDeath panels! -
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Mon, October 5, 2009 - 5:44 PM
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Mon, October 5, 2009 - 6:28 PMLogan's Run, I think. I'll have you know I never saw it, but I have the weird and useless power of being able to "pick up" certain kinds of pop culture by osmosis. Thankfully, that is fading as I age.
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Mon, October 5, 2009 - 8:32 PMbut not vacation, willing ritual suicide in an arena, 'carouselle' -
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Mon, October 5, 2009 - 9:16 PMwow. 15 replies in 10 hrs. hot topic.
phil edwards once said " a mature man never remains a hotdogger" WTF did he know. i can't remember what anybody posted so won't be able to respond.
except for spec... there's a little picture of that singing surfer from the city and i am extending a personal invitation to whoever he is to a helium breathing contest for next year. just build the merry-go-round will ya bud?
"heart shaped world" damn, almost had it.
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Re: is there still a burner elders tribe out there?
Tue, October 20, 2009 - 4:03 PMDidn't Soylent Green turn you to, well Soylent Green at age 30?
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Tue, October 20, 2009 - 4:06 PMThere is a newer movie, forget the title, with Ewan McGregor where they clone millionaires. The clones live in an underground city, fooled into believing the surface is toxic except for one island. If you "win" the lotto you're sent to the island.
...where you are harvested for your organs to keep your millionaire alive.
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Tue, October 20, 2009 - 9:34 PMThat was "The Island". Not sure what "won" one the lottery . . . I beleive it was they needed your parts.
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Mon, October 5, 2009 - 6:02 PM<This is scary... did they all "move on?" >
Yeah, they probably "moved on" to FaceSpace like the rest of the herd...
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Mon, October 5, 2009 - 5:51 PMDo you dance, naked, around campfires and proclaim prophesies? -
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Re: Do you dance, naked, around campfires and proclaim prophesies?
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 6:29 PMOnly if you're paying Robert Bligh obscene amounts of money for the priveledge.
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Mon, October 5, 2009 - 7:39 PMRe: "This is scary... did they all "move on?""
Since I'm on that elders tribe I have strong evidence that at least one of them is still alive.
Re: "Do you dance, naked, around campfires and proclaim prophesies?"
Rarely all at once. I just don't multi-task all that well at my advanced age. And the correct playa usage is "burn barrels" rather than "campfires."
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Mon, October 5, 2009 - 7:45 PM<Re: "This is scary... did they all "move on?"" >
Maybe they have become like those star trek aliens with big pulsing heads and they communicate telepathically.
McGutie! Maybe the elders can make your raygun! -
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Mon, October 5, 2009 - 8:28 PMthey probably just had less patience with tribe imploding than the more technologically addicted of us.
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Tue, October 20, 2009 - 9:36 PMI love the hiney heads! I bet 200 quatloos on the newcomer
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Mon, October 5, 2009 - 8:28 PM> "Since I'm on that elders tribe I have strong evidence that at least one of them is still alive."
we require a turing test -
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Mon, October 5, 2009 - 9:33 PMI'm actually thinking more of a 'Highlander' scenario. Dr. P killed off all the rest because "there can be only one" and all that. -
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Tue, October 6, 2009 - 7:17 AM> "Since I'm on that elders tribe I have strong evidence that at least one of them is still alive."
I trust in your judgment...
but Dr Placebo, I would like a second opinion.
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Tue, October 6, 2009 - 10:18 AMRe: "but Dr Placebo, I would like a second opinion"
How about "it's time for more coffee?"
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Tue, October 6, 2009 - 10:33 AMIsn't the traditional answer "You're ugly, too." -
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Tue, October 6, 2009 - 10:48 AMI'm fortysomething, but a WIZENED fortysomething ...I can I still join? I'm an anachronism, and an old fart in training! :)
23-skidoooooo!
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Whoa I Just Caught This!
Tue, October 6, 2009 - 10:51 AM<<no age limit. >>
DOH!
cool
(see? the dementia is already starting...ah what a splendid elder I shall be! ...what? Hmm?)
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Re: is there still a burner elders tribe out there?
Tue, October 6, 2009 - 11:26 AM"I'm forty something, but a WIZENED forty something ...I can I still join?"
Of course just show your AARP card.
No.. not the American Association of Retired People card... your Anti Aging Rebellious People card.
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Tue, October 6, 2009 - 11:17 AM"Isn't the traditional answer "You're ugly, too."
I was wondering who was going to pick up on that...
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Re: is there still a burner elders tribe out there?
Tue, October 6, 2009 - 11:40 AMHeh heh. -
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Tue, October 6, 2009 - 12:35 PMyou numbskulls,
Everyone
Living
Doing
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R,,,,,,,,,er,,,,,,,what was i saying? i lost my train of thought.
i saw tim leary speak shortly before his passing and he said the greatest thing about aging was that you only need one video tape.
one for all and all for one. radically inclusive and all that stuff. all invited! everyone! you will be screened by the board of directors though.
one good thing to remember is that we are GROWING older.
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Tue, October 6, 2009 - 2:46 PMA tribe for "seasoned older" burners might be nice... Probably less drama... We just attended our second burn - ages 61 & 59 and are planning for number 3 next year. Figure there is no law that says "you can't have Social Security because you attended Burning Man" so we are going to have fun and embarass our adult kids now like they did us... -
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Tue, October 6, 2009 - 3:52 PM"A tribe for "seasoned older" burners might be nice.."
Sounds like a recipe.... Soylent Green anyone?
Reminds me of an Alfred Hitchcock story I once read about a guy who committed murder.
While the police were investigating the missing person, he fed them hamburgers and hot dogs.
When they were about to arrest him he told them that they "were all accessories" since they all helped him dispose of the body... the ground meat was the victim.
Upon hearing that they ate the guy they all proceeded to throw up.
The moral of the story was
"You can't keep a good man down".
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Tue, October 6, 2009 - 4:00 PMRoald Dahl wrote something similier about a leg of lamb. -
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Re: is there still a burner elders tribe out there?
Tue, October 20, 2009 - 9:40 PMThere was a Hitch TV show to that effect. The "murder weapon" was a blunt instrument and in the last scene the murdress was feeding the leg of lamb/murder weapon to the investigating officers
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Tue, October 6, 2009 - 4:13 PMOK maybe "seasoned older burners" wasn't a good choice but I was avoiding using the term OLD FARTS! Gosh - I love tribe... -
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Tue, October 6, 2009 - 4:40 PMFace it. All euphamisms are awkward and grotesque bits of language. Or insufferably bland so they don't accidentally offend.
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Tue, October 6, 2009 - 6:30 PMSOBs, yeah, that's a good one. -
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Wed, October 7, 2009 - 7:41 AM"All euphemisms are awkward and grotesque bits of language. Or insufferably bland so they don't accidentally offend. "
I love euphemisms!
But I never used them when it came to discussing my kid's body parts.
My Mom though did.
She used to call my sister's vagina her "poop".
When I first I heard the expression " I'm all pooped out" I had a hard time understanding what it meant.
Another time, when I was reading a Superboy comic and Superboy made a big mistake... he said he "Pulled a boner".
I kept looking and looking at his red shorts and decided that if Superboy "pulled a boner" it wasn't very super.
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Re: is there still a burner elders tribe out there?
Wed, October 7, 2009 - 12:37 PMwell time for a little honesty on my part.
i really just want to hook up with someone with a cush rv.
the tent thing, well, kinda had it with that.
age really has nothing to do with it. i just want a place to hang my hat out of the elements. ah comfort.
so if your 18 and have the vehicle and want an old fart to tell you all about the " good 'ole daze"
(remember now, i saw janis, the dead, and jimi all on the same bill for $2.50)
i could be a mildly interesting traveling companion.
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Wed, October 7, 2009 - 2:51 PM"i saw janis, the dead, and jimi all on the same bill for $2.50) "
I saw Taj Mahal, Sly and the Family Stone (booed off the stage) and Jimi in the same show at the Filmore East in 1969... I think i paid $5.00
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Thu, October 8, 2009 - 2:18 PMWe ran our genny for a "total" of 1/2 hour all week...It can be done. -
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Re: is there still a burner elders tribe out there?
Thu, October 8, 2009 - 2:58 PMI just got an e-mail from a friend... he forwarded a list of thoughts from a 90 year old woman... here's part of what she wrote:
Life is too short to waste time hating anyone.
Your job won't take care of you when you are sick. Your friends and parents will. Stay in touch.
You don't have to win every argument. Agree to disagree.
Make peace with your past so it won't screw up the present.
Don't compare your life to others. You have no idea what their journey is all about..
If a relationship has to be a secret, you shouldn't be in it.
Get rid of anything that isn't useful, beautiful or joyful.
Whatever doesn't kill you really does make you stronger.
When it comes to going after what you love in life, don't take no for an answer.
Don't wait for a special occasion to do what you want to do. Today is special.
Over prepare, then go with the flow.
No one is in charge of your happiness but you.
Frame every so-called disaster with these words 'In five years, will this matter?
Always choose life.
However good or bad a situation is, it will change.
Don't take yourself so seriously. No one else does.
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Fri, October 9, 2009 - 9:22 AMthanks Rob, words of wisdom.
Phil Edwards once said " never stop surfing". -
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Fri, October 9, 2009 - 10:23 AM
On my profile I've posted my philosophy.... I guess they can be construed as "words of wisdom".
Please add to my list...
Rules for having a great relationship:
1- If you can't tell your lover about something you want to do... don't do it.
2- Don't go to bed angry.
3- If you have a fight, resolve it, don't repeat it and don't bring it up again... it's resolved.
4- Kiss hello when you meet and kiss goodbye when you depart.
5- Don't take your love for granted... hug every day.
About kids:
Have dinner with them as much as you can.
Get to know their friends.
Don't get crazy about what they look like or how they express themselves... pay attention to their core values: are they kind?
Support their passions.
Have fun with them.
Sometimes all you have to do is listen.
You can't have an argument if one person is calm.
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Fri, October 9, 2009 - 10:56 AMthanks for the words of wisdom Rob!
Phil Edwards once said "never stop surfing".
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Re: is there still a burner elders tribe out there?
Sat, October 10, 2009 - 4:02 PM"A tribe for "seasoned older" burners might be nice.."
Sounds like a recipe.... Soylent Green anyone?"
"Roald Dahl wrote something similier about a leg of lamb."
One of my favorite Far Side cartoons shows a little shepherd girl sitting down with knife and fork in hand, the caption reads...
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Sat, October 10, 2009 - 4:47 PMMy fave Far Side cartoon shows a kid with soot all over his face & clothes in front of a blown-to-shit chemistry set, and the caption says:
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Sat, October 10, 2009 - 5:50 PMI don't have a favorite Far Side cartoon, but now I realize that I haven't looked at some Larson in far too long.
(He's a retired person with a far amount of disposable income. I don't go for the "Celebrities as Burners" stories, but I guess I'd be pleased to know he attends. I'm such a tool.)
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Tue, October 13, 2009 - 12:43 PMmy favorite Larson (but there are so many good ones!)
a dachsund dog standing on its hind legs on a stool, pouring a cup of coffee from a coffee maker. A chihuahua is sitting next to him, drinking coffee and reading the paper. The caption: "How nervous little dogs start their day"
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Re: is there still a burner elders tribe out there?
Wed, October 7, 2009 - 1:09 PMThere definitely was a "Tribe of Elders" camp in 2009. I met one of them (Leonard?) while I was working the greeter shift with Stag on Wednesday AM. He was 67 and in better physical shape than I (I'm 53). According to him, the youngest member was 60, the oldest 76 (as I recall) Their motto was, "We will listen to you".
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Wed, October 7, 2009 - 2:48 PMlove their motto. -
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Wed, October 7, 2009 - 5:19 PMI'm reading this thread with more than a little interest, turning the big 50 this year. Rob, I absolutely think the idea of the AARP (Anti-Aging Rebellious People) card is a winner!
I also love the 'We listen to you' motto. Geologists are sort of outside the norm, as there's so much to know, and we always say that the best paleontologists begin around age 70. I always make it a point to welcome any elder visiting geologist onto a drilling site, because of the experience factor. And some of their minds are soooooo sharp......it has to do with a lifetime of three-dimensional visualization put into the context of change. And they tend to be extremely dangerous in a good hand of five card stud............. -
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Wed, October 7, 2009 - 7:25 PMElder is as elder does. I've met some pretty impressive elders both at Burning Man and on the outside. When the elder is in deep touch with their wisdom body, then that truly is a blessing for everyone. The world needs good mentors now more than anything else. -
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Wed, October 7, 2009 - 10:12 PMcowboyangel, talk like that I accept almost as an axiom.
And you're absolutely right about the world needing good mentors. Where would WE be without somebody who gave a damn about us as human beings and producive individuals? -
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Thu, October 8, 2009 - 11:18 AMit used to be and still is the norm in countries around the world, for the elders of the tribe to be held in high regard and consulted on matters of concern. dis-respect for "old people" is not only sad but has become the norm in many corners of our society. everyone needs someone to listen to them and i for one am trying to hone that skill. it's an effort for me not to jump in and try to "fix" things. i hope, as i grow older, that i will learn the art of listening.
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Tue, October 20, 2009 - 9:40 PM"The world needs good mentors now more than anything else. "
No dude. What the world needs is a decent single-malt that costs less than $15 a bottle. -
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Tue, October 20, 2009 - 9:55 PMI'll drink to that. -
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Thu, October 22, 2009 - 3:19 PMAs I will tonight. And the next night. And the next. And the next night also, even though I;m not sure what night it will be though. Drinking does that to me. So of course, I'll drink to that as well.
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Oh there is a tribe ..lets rename it so no one will find the old fogies... lol
Sun, October 11, 2009 - 2:33 PM -
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Sun, October 11, 2009 - 2:47 PM"lets rename it so no one will find the old fogies."
Ha!.... not even the old fogies.
But really... what is old?
To someone approaching 100, at almost 60, I would be considered by that person to be relatively young.
I heard that the definition of "old" was 15 years older than yourself at the time you are figuring out how old, "old" is.
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Sun, October 11, 2009 - 3:40 PM
... I think we need a definition here of what an " old fogie " is.
My definition is that of a person that is stuck in his or her old ways and is no longer interested in trying new things.
Which probably exclude folks who have gone to BM.
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Sun, October 11, 2009 - 4:08 PMWatch out.......pun-ishment from Rob in progress.
Hmmm........prunes are plums that have been accordion-ized........wonder if that's why Rob likes 'em? -
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Sun, October 11, 2009 - 5:03 PM
"pun-ishment "
oooooooooh... LOVE IT!!!!
the pun.... I'm not into S&M... which reminds me of my favorite S&M joke:
Masochist : Hit me! Hit Me!
Sadist with whip: No
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Thu, October 22, 2009 - 3:22 PM
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Mon, October 12, 2009 - 11:06 PMLOL
my grand daughter turned 5, I called her on the phone she says: " Hi grandma guess what I'm old!" "Oh really ?" I replied. She says: "how old are you Grandma? "I'm 50 now" I reply she says: "WHOA"
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Wed, October 28, 2009 - 9:53 PMlove the twists and turns here.
so, should we res-erect (vitamin v not a mandatory sacrament for the menfolk) the elders tribe with a new name and no concern about age limit, lowest concert ticket price, kilos of dried plums consumed per year, # of years attended, and a name that will hide our true identity?
sounds good to me. a place for those of a certain mindset who would like to trade stories about the good 'ole daze and offer any help we can from our collective years in the desert and on the planet to those with questions. sort of tribe within tribe?
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Thu, October 29, 2009 - 10:36 AM"so, should we res-erect.... the elders tribe with a new name"
Although I would join a veteran/older tribe... I think that it's not needed.
I enjoy the vibrancy of different points of view voiced by virgins to veterans and young to "older" on this venue.
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Mon, October 12, 2009 - 1:07 PMDon't take this kind of self-selected poll too seriously. But there is a segment (including myself) that just can't stop going out there.
The 10% figure may not be completely accurate, but since the city population has been at 20000 or more every year since 1999 having 4000-5000 people with 10 years or more is not all that unreasonable. -
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Mon, October 12, 2009 - 2:58 PM
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Mon, October 19, 2009 - 12:25 PM
maybe someday i will be able to celebrate MY 10yr anniversary
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Mon, October 19, 2009 - 12:52 PMfor now....where do all these vets hang out?
Vets usually hang out where there are sick animals to treat.
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Mon, October 19, 2009 - 1:33 PM
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Mon, October 19, 2009 - 2:41 PM
"rice crispy treats?"
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Wed, October 21, 2009 - 6:04 AMScrew self-compartmentalizing yourself because of your age. That's just bullshit.
I was thinking this thread was running more along the path of being for people who who've been to the event for more than say 6-7 times. -
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Wed, October 21, 2009 - 9:27 AMthe second half of life starts some where between 30 to 50..... 4 burns makes the majority seniors too....
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It's all green, and lumpy
Wed, October 21, 2009 - 1:50 PMI haven't had a decent bowel movement, since somewhere in the Carter administration.
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Wed, October 21, 2009 - 2:30 PM
"I haven't had a decent bowel movement"
Try using some resin on your hands... then follow all the way through with your movement so that your ball goes down the ally for a strike!
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Re: It's all green, and lumpy
Wed, October 21, 2009 - 6:18 PMOften, after time in the boweling alley, I have sticky stuff all over my hands. Your telling me, that it is called resin?
Thank you. I didn't know that.
However, what your telling me, is that I should rub some of that goo on my hands, before I pump some "hot ones" down the alley?
O.K. I'll give it a try, however I'm not really sure how that will help.
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Re: It's all green, and lumpy
Wed, October 21, 2009 - 8:11 PM"before I pump some "hot ones" down the alley? "
Safety third as they say... keep your "hot ones" clear of the pump... you know that's where you have gas.
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Wed, October 21, 2009 - 8:58 PM> Screw self-compartmentalizing yourself because of your age. That's just bullshit.
That would be burning older, rather than some reference to wizened veterean.
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Sun, October 25, 2009 - 12:38 PM<<<Screw self-compartmentalizing yourself because of your age. That's just bullshit.
I was thinking this thread was running more along the path of being for people who who've been to the event for more than say 6-7 times.>>>
Ditto.
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