>Please visit our site and consider joining our light. < AT YOUR OWN RISK.
DO NOT HIT THE LINK, THE SITE IS A BANDWIDTH SUCKING POP-Up PRODUCUNG, TRAIN WRECK THAT FROZE MY BROWSER.

Nice piracy of the music for starters, I'm sure the "Police" appreciate being used to butcher speekers, in any event, here is "a message in a tribe post". Loose the thread and try again.

Before I linked to the site, I was impressed enough to take a few creative pot shots at this post, in a light reply, then I checked to see what I was on the verge of mocking, and visited the pop-up monster touted. One very unimpressive visit later, necessitating a force quite of firefox, free my machine from the grips of the the site, I warn off the masses, to the mess, by prefacing the below with the above.

Dude wrote:
>This is where I would need input from all of you BM peoples<

So you are looking for 10,487 folks thoughts on the matter as prerequisite for...taking beyond tribe to seek the council of the other 20,000, before...the event? Hats off, just for thinking big, and so often.
(Note: Freezing 10,000+ of these 'peoples' computers would not be such a good idea.)

That is a lot if information, but I'm sure this bunch is up to the task (nevermind). Just to give you a head start you might want to give some thought to what the environmental impacts on petite beagles from your project might be. Is it a cooker, or is it a mulcher? What does it do with the "yap"
Also there will be considerable interest and feedback from the bacon-centric burners.
You will need to explain how your project pertains to bacon on the playa. This angle is important, as it is greasy.
As for me, i represent as being part of the smart ass brigade, and have said my peace, with out the benefit of view your site (then I did, mistake), rather I participated by wishing you well on your endeavour, and giving heads up as to what really matters in these (web) pages; useful information and humor. Your going to need to up the anti on both those scores. Get busy.

Lastly, you wrote, "BM Peoples! " First, this is incorrect grammer. Second, in my experience (10 burns, and summer home in Gerlach), the only folks who use the expression "Burning Man People" are the Gerlachians when the have burner 'issues'.

As a wise man once said "it's light is heavy", but he was not talking about pop-ups, piracy, and a all hands on deck critique. Be careful what you seek.

jaded man- clear (ly has other issues)
this ain't one of them,
"beware the ides of march"
rant off.
TC

I'm not sure I got to where I was intended to get to... but where I got seemed repetitive and I wanted to change the channel... But had to do a forced quit of netscape to get away from the place I got to that seemed like I was trapped. I won't be joining your light again,Thanks, I'm not lonely being a light unto myself, so all's well.

yo seth d8,

the counter showed 281 on your site.

guess that made me 282 to view.

i haven't been to the big burn out west,

so this is just my personal human opinion,

but i thought your site had the most interesting animation i'd seen all day.

thank you.

and don't pay any mind to the caustic commentakers,

maybe they just need to tune in to www.theoryradio.org,

which seemed to be the perfect audio compliment while i was viewing.

if you need to get your zen on after all that,

might i direct you to chir.ag/stuff/sand/

because it seems like something even the light would like.

or not.

regardless, lots of luck and luv to y'all,

krista

but really, where do you people learn to speak like that? who are your models? where is the positive reinforcement coming from? who do you hear speaking like that that makes sense to you and makes you think of it as a good way of getting your ideas across?

maybe you could chime in on this veru as you occasionally get into that mode but also can be fairly straightforward.

Hi Seth,
I decided to check back with your "light" to see if I could find changes in browser functions. Netscape and your site just don't seem compatible. So I tried Safari and had good results. All links seemed to work and gave me the navigational control that I did not have in Netscape.
Much of the content didn't hold my interest too long. I have no doubt that each piece required laborious time and skills for the technical manipulation of the "borrowed" and original (?) images and connecting them in the animated format with sound. But like I said, didn't hold onto my interest very long. I think part if it due to too many layers of unrelated materials. They're interesting for couple minutes but then they blur into a "seen that... here it is again" thing. Another thing that brings up resistance and disinterest for me is being fed a message. "all I ask is you love me"... What's that? Why? What kind of a game of manipulations...? So I felt resistance to the message. Much like the tone of your emails and the meanings you attach to the whole site concept. It's not "light" to me, and so I'm unable to buy into the concept and believe. I'm not much into believing. "It takes light to create darkness"= bullshit.

But... for me none of this applies to Phil's "Spin". There was no overt attempt to force feed a message. And yet it's message is that of the experience of Universal truth. (Not this "newer truth" "higher truth" you gibber jabbered about) Nothing to believe in. It just IS.
One of the things that sets "Spin" apart from all of the other content for me is that it is a product of collaboration between the observer/photographer and the observed subjects. The subjects participated in being the objects... I liked that about it. Even though I again felt it became repetitious in order to meet the time requirements of the added sound/music... I would have preferred to have more original content rather than the repetition... but still I watched it through more than once, unlike any of the other selections. Mostly because of it's simplistic expression. It had the clarity of One layer, One Universal Truth. Not a message... but a demonstration that everything that IS rotates. From the large to the infinitesimal, IT is in movement. The universe rotating, the sun spins in it's orbit, the planets revolve while revolving in orbit around the sun. Atomic particles have their revolving ions and neutrons... Everything that IS is in revolution. Because of that the Sufis dance, turning in space, in circles and around and around in movements of universal harmony... And Phil's "Spin" reminded me, that while siting silently, doing nothing... I'm spinning through space too. I saw "Spin" being a expression of THAT which is in all life. It's the Latihan, the divine movement that Sufis desire to tune into, as well as the Subud. www.web.net/latihan/
"Spin" reminded me. I liked that about it. "Spin" worked *** for me ***, the other selections fell short of the lofty pedestals your introductions attempted to put them on.
Thanks.
-g

Sorry Phil... Disregard any of my comments/opinions that may be slanderous of your intent... Whadd'a I know?!?

+ Hello!

+ I just wanted to post a quick note and let you all know that I'm still here, I just got finished with my work week and a bit exhausted, I will catch up on everyones posts over the week end. I will also be incorporating your feedback into this project to re-invent it to a new better self.

+ Thank You!

+ Seth D8

+ Hello!

+ I would like to thank everyone for their feedback! It is invaluable in this early stage of the our light project.

+ I would like to re-emphasize my original intent in posting here. This project is intended to be a project of collaboration an co-creation of many artist and creative people from all around the world. When I asked people to join our light, I was asking for people to join the our light creative team. To contribute their ideas, art work skills to make the our light project come alive. As it stands now it is the work of 2 artists and 3 contributing artists. We recognized that we needed more assistance and more collaboration to make our vision come true so we actively begin seeking collaborators.

+ What is the vision? First let's start with some back ground. Seth D8 had a realization that his artwork was a direct reflection of his dimensional understanding over the past 15 years. As an example in my profile there are two pieces of art called "Alien Evasion" one I did in 1997 the other one I did about 3 weeks ago this difference in style really illustrates my depth of understanding of my world. So collaborating with Phil we took the selected pieces of the past 10 years of my art and are trying to show this unfoldment for everyone to see. I showed the final presentation to several people and they where very positive feedback. Then it struck me, if I had this unfoldment, then other artist must be having the same type of understanding through their art. Wouldn't it be a great thing if we could create a website where people could go a see artists minds unfolding through their artwork? And then my idea became a bit grander realizing for that matter wouldn't it be great if we could have a website that not only would show where our minds had been, but where our minds are now collectively through our artists artwork? When I say we and our I am speaking in the terms of all artists owning the fact that we are the artists of today's society and as soon as I say I it's mine and not ours. My only want is for the our light project to truly be a collaborative project, with several artisans guiding it in it's growth. So the vision for the our light project is a collaborative artistic expression illustrating in real-time the collective understanding of our world through individual artistic contributions.

+ To clarify when I say I hold no judgment, attachment or possession to our light. What I am saying is, I may have these types of feelings and thoughts rise in me, but I recognize them for what they are and in order to truly let this project flourish I choose not to hold onto these feelings and thoughts and immediately let them go. I am a very humble man, I am not seeking anything from this project other than to make it happen. I recognize the importance of each person contribution and their place as being just as important as the next, this includes my own.

+ I would like to invite anyone interested in joining this project to join the tribes.tribe.net/observeourlight tribe and begin the process of collaboration there. We are in dire need of a webpage design person. We also need artistic contributors and collaborators.

+ Thank You, Every One of You for your Feedback!

+ Seth D8