http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#3487f974-3c2e-4883-9f57-c9f11e7e9b9e Bohemian what? Sat, 01 Dec 2007 08:31:48 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#3487f974-3c2e-4883-9f57-c9f11e7e9b9e Shooter 2007-12-01T08:31:48Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#d06b71b2-b141-401a-9613-32970dcd9d28 DPW at BM is the best summer camp for adults EVER!!!!!! Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:31:44 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#d06b71b2-b141-401a-9613-32970dcd9d28 Ridge 2007-11-29T08:31:44Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#d855f284-1688-4034-9adb-341660448f5c Three cheers for Eddie! Hip Hip HOrray! Hip hip horray! Hip hip horray! Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:33:48 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#d855f284-1688-4034-9adb-341660448f5c Crypto 2007-11-29T07:33:48Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#be487f07-a129-4796-8171-cb6b531dad9b Umm ok if you say so. See that Crypto? I can stop trying to be logical on here. :-) Thu, 29 Nov 2007 06:38:44 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#be487f07-a129-4796-8171-cb6b531dad9b $item.owner.firstName 2007-11-29T06:38:44Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#6f3b36a7-f83a-4243-972e-6151570ed6ea Yeah, it'd be just yet another revolution of a skipping record of static. Now, if we built a 20 foot tall fence topped with razor wire around them and placed towers with overlapping fields of fire at regular intervals, I'd be down with that. Other wise, I'll keep looking for a community garden to get involved with and keep burning down billboards at night. cheers! g Thu, 29 Nov 2007 05:29:57 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#6f3b36a7-f83a-4243-972e-6151570ed6ea grouchosuave 2007-11-29T05:29:57Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#ccabfe3b-ff26-46ee-a42e-4f81620d1ca6 Would we actually be culture jamming, or just another annoying group of protesters getting in the way? Thu, 29 Nov 2007 05:23:06 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#ccabfe3b-ff26-46ee-a42e-4f81620d1ca6 Crypto 2007-11-29T05:23:06Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#a1dc0843-45ba-43ab-baa9-382ce84893a2 ummm because he would have been culture jamming some of the wealthiest and most powerful men in the world. Sorry Eddie, but Chicken John, Jim Mason, and Larry Harvey, just don't have the social capital of Bush, Cheney, Blair, Rumsfield, ect.... Thu, 29 Nov 2007 05:15:32 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#a1dc0843-45ba-43ab-baa9-382ce84893a2 Kent 2007-11-29T05:15:32Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#086b858b-987d-4858-b272-0fda348332c6 ummm why? Thu, 29 Nov 2007 03:00:07 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#086b858b-987d-4858-b272-0fda348332c6 $item.owner.firstName 2007-11-29T03:00:07Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#0b422fe9-d7a6-40ba-947b-9cda7ea2cc7d If Paul Addis really wanted to make a staement or gain more than 15 minutes of fame he should have used his manic energy to infiltrate the Bohemian Grove, burn the cremation of care effigy early, and blow up the sacred owl. Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:58:20 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#0b422fe9-d7a6-40ba-947b-9cda7ea2cc7d Kent 2007-11-29T00:58:20Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#ebbdda67-a038-4e81-bce6-483ae78748ce Shooter: > I wonder what would happen if a 1000 burners rushed the gate at BG. I imagine that either the secret service or blackwater security would stop you - and I don't think that they'd be nice about it. Sorry, but I prefer rushing the gate at Burningman as an American Dream art piece. Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:43:24 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#ebbdda67-a038-4e81-bce6-483ae78748ce Adam 2007-11-28T22:43:24Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#7b50927c-43f8-4c20-97c3-4d114bd2a833 <<I wonder what would happen if a 1000 burners rushed the gate at BG.>> Heh-heh. One hell of a news story... Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:43:03 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#7b50927c-43f8-4c20-97c3-4d114bd2a833 Rockstar 2007-11-28T21:43:03Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#9478d648-fd87-4e0a-a90e-0b2c6b7e47a7 I think the response would be determined by who happens to be attending BG when you rushed. Im in for a border rush as long as i'm not in the front row. I think I'd prefer to be in the back somewhere. I know a lot of people I would love to see take point though. Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:17:54 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#9478d648-fd87-4e0a-a90e-0b2c6b7e47a7 $item.owner.firstName 2007-11-28T20:17:54Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#044f1fb4-7a3f-4f46-a17e-88ce923d7f22 do you know why the burner crossed the road? Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:39:03 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#044f1fb4-7a3f-4f46-a17e-88ce923d7f22 jameseye 2007-11-28T17:39:03Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#d67ce008-ab51-4b25-962b-4a79d3ec12cc I wonder what would happen if a 1000 burners rushed the gate at BG. Wed, 28 Nov 2007 09:46:33 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#d67ce008-ab51-4b25-962b-4a79d3ec12cc Shooter 2007-11-28T09:46:33Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#799fcba5-36e7-4ca9-8df3-283f20c70d41 no worries. 57. age and iq. Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:12:40 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#799fcba5-36e7-4ca9-8df3-283f20c70d41 jameseye 2007-11-28T06:12:40Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#0e861f0e-a9f8-4966-9348-926767209978 Oh, sorry. I just take quotes more seriously than most, I guess. It did have me wondering how old you were though. Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:07:18 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#0e861f0e-a9f8-4966-9348-926767209978 MdJGutie 2007-11-28T06:07:18Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#66c91585-2beb-4314-aeb3-abd46ac72cb6 ????? my post was a Joke mnjg. maybe that 152 is getting in way of your funny bone. sheese! please forgive the capital letters? ::::::::::::::::j;-----) Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:04:32 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#66c91585-2beb-4314-aeb3-abd46ac72cb6 jameseye 2007-11-28T06:04:32Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#fc2d5bfa-1ec8-45a5-a773-a18921de49b2 Okay, James, maybe he said that to YOU at Ray's, but he said something slightly different in front of a microphone to the Western Wood Products Association in San Francisco on 12 March 1966, and it's THAT quote the following sources (and many more) rely on, not your Q & A at the barbershop. Cannon, Lou. Governor Reagan: His Rise to Power. New York: PublicAffairs, 2003. ISBN 1-58648-030-8 (pp. 177-178, 299-303). Associated Press. "Conferees OK 58,000-Acre Redwood Park." Los Angeles Times. 10 September 1968 (p. 3). United Press International. "Redwood Park Plan Approved, Sent to Johnson." Los Angeles Times. 20 September 1968 (p. 3). Carl Pope, Sierra Club Executive Director http://www.sierraclub.org/carlpope/archive/2006_07_12_index.asp [FWIW I try not to misquote people and don't offer a quote until I can cite my sources] Wed, 28 Nov 2007 05:58:39 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#fc2d5bfa-1ec8-45a5-a773-a18921de49b2 MdJGutie 2007-11-28T05:58:39Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#ccbc01d0-7018-49cb-aa0a-dae623f4cd5c omg! when is this going to end? i grew up in mill valley,approx 5 miles from a grove of coastal redwoods named "Muir Woods" after the sierra and yosemite valley adventurer and writer. i was getting a haircut next to RR at ray's in town when i asked him about the upcoming vote to make the grove a state monument. im pretty sure he said " when you've seen a bunch of red trees, you don't need to see no more" or something like that. Wed, 28 Nov 2007 05:43:07 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#ccbc01d0-7018-49cb-aa0a-dae623f4cd5c jameseye 2007-11-28T05:43:07Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#7751a53c-f150-427a-8e54-955f0beee481 "actually what RR said was,"once you've seen one redwood tree, you've seen them all"" " Actually, that's how he's most often misquoted. What really said was the quote I posted. “It was in this context that candidate (not yet governor) Ronald Reagan, while speaking before the Western Wood Products Association in San Francisco on 12 March 1966, said the following: I think, too, that we've got to recognize that where the preservation of a natural resource like the redwoods is concerned, that there is a common sense limit. I mean, if you've looked at a hundred thousand acres or so of trees — you know, a tree is a tree, how many more do you need to look at?” http://www.snopes.com/quotes/reagan/redwoods.asp Wed, 28 Nov 2007 05:21:59 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#7751a53c-f150-427a-8e54-955f0beee481 MdJGutie 2007-11-28T05:21:59Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#6cd6cc10-9950-46be-8a27-e2dbcf622cfd also, what i meant to say on regards to the vid was "pretty entertaining" :::::::::::::j;---) Wed, 28 Nov 2007 03:45:30 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#6cd6cc10-9950-46be-8a27-e2dbcf622cfd jameseye 2007-11-28T03:45:30Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#6ea38975-dc2a-4306-b64d-f6139c1f361c actually what RR said was,"once you've seen one redwood tree, you've seen them all"" Wed, 28 Nov 2007 03:41:34 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#6ea38975-dc2a-4306-b64d-f6139c1f361c jameseye 2007-11-28T03:41:34Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#23beee2c-95e6-4d9c-80c2-8a3cad92c4ca I think you're right, Eddie. I think it is a dreary little gathering, noteworthy only in that it gives the rich and powerful a wonderful networking opportunity and a nice bulwark against anything outside influancing their worldviews. I actually think that making all those claims about satanism and human sacrifice is conterproductive, because it make even legitemate opposition looks silly by association. Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:42:24 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#23beee2c-95e6-4d9c-80c2-8a3cad92c4ca Crypto 2007-11-27T23:42:24Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#5157bec6-7731-463a-b717-f33ce71dc587 He immedieately followed it up by saying "A Squaw is a Squaw." And that's so gross that even my making it up and posting makes me an object of suspicion and derision. Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:39:37 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#5157bec6-7731-463a-b717-f33ce71dc587 Crypto 2007-11-27T23:39:37Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#07e32839-7680-4f32-a725-c70ff31a7c3b <It was RR who said, "A tree is a tree> Not to quibble, but it was Interior Secretary James Watt who made that observation. Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:37:14 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#07e32839-7680-4f32-a725-c70ff31a7c3b David 2007-11-27T23:37:14Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#61d8d616-4434-476a-a5e0-db922358651b Alex Jones B.S is exactly why I cringe every time somebody brings up the BG. It's like trying to discuss the engineering of the pyramids. You can't have realistic conversation because somebody always brings up aliens, lizard people etc. Hunter Thompson always said the most interesting thing about the BG was how silly and uninteresting the event really is(unless of course when he was using it as an example to call a politician a pervert). Kind of like summer camp for CPAs and Lawyers. Then again people like Alex Jones use that as an excuse to call Hunter Thompson a liar and try to say he is covering up that he was really the cameraman in a snuff film starring Larry King filmed at BG. Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:34:55 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#61d8d616-4434-476a-a5e0-db922358651b $item.owner.firstName 2007-11-27T23:34:55Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#16bb8891-b3e2-43cc-9bd1-8e7eb92bb5bf if you have an hour and a half this is pretty interesting. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1358319439993514946&q=bohemian+grove&total=1347&start=0&num= Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:16:03 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#16bb8891-b3e2-43cc-9bd1-8e7eb92bb5bf jameseye 2007-11-27T22:16:03Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#08f08331-e8fd-4f4c-81b5-4c9413d5440b As for doing them any good, I doubt that. It was RR who said, "A tree is a tree. How many more do you have to look at?" when the Redwood National Park was proposed in 1966 and "Trees cause more pollution than automobiles do," in 1981. Some people just don't get it. Oh, and speaking of the right wing closet, they said on the news last night that Trent Lott is stepping down by the end of this year to "spend more time with his family." Er, okay. We believe that line when we hear it. Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:31:39 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#08f08331-e8fd-4f4c-81b5-4c9413d5440b MdJGutie 2007-11-27T19:31:39Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#d05ee4df-a016-4833-95be-5be208a5fe16 When you say that the Grove had a gay side, it was and is still in the closet at the Grove. Perhaps you are thinking of Fife's in Guerneville. Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:19:40 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#d05ee4df-a016-4833-95be-5be208a5fe16 Wedeliver 2007-11-27T19:19:40Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#251eeb15-a345-4806-a076-892f48a8c819 I worked at the Notty Room in Monte Rio back in the early '80's (bartender) and taxi drivers would stop in after delivering a few "girls" to the grove (by the way only one "o"). My understanding it was right wing power politics. No art people, except republican actors, singers..etc. Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:16:53 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#251eeb15-a345-4806-a076-892f48a8c819 Wedeliver 2007-11-27T19:16:53Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#eab57509-0131-439a-8d13-a1d261169499 I would take anything coming off of infowars, prisonplanet(both ran by the same con artist) with 10 ton grain of salt. Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:36:22 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#eab57509-0131-439a-8d13-a1d261169499 $item.owner.firstName 2007-11-27T17:36:22Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#0f033402-19c4-4ecb-8236-f7e5050e049c My old boss used to go to the Bohemian Grove. Sure, I thought the whole thing was pretty gay. Way to gay for me. And I live with my boyfriend. He used to have my department build scale models for a set he'd build for a play they'd put on. And ya, the play sounded like something I would never want to watch (as in it sucks). But hey, when it comes down to it, I wish that more of those upity white guys in power would go to the Grove. I get a feeling that it's not the ones who actively participate in the Grove that are the problem. Heck, I think running around the woods necked slappin each others ass while on mushrooms would be good for some of them. I sure wish that Heir Bush would pull that stick out of his ass every now and then and loosen up with them. Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:31:51 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#0f033402-19c4-4ecb-8236-f7e5050e049c Unsubscribed 2007-11-27T16:31:51Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#980dab5b-d116-498b-a191-8738bf990b88 No derisive reference to Jonestown was intended. I mean the NASTY stuff they used to call "bug juice" in summer camp...that orange kool-aid that they prepared in the 10-gallon pots and poured over ice in jugs....that stuff never tasted right, and they told us it was good for us. Vitamin C, sure, but gimme a strong cuppa joe today. Don't tell me something nasty tasting is good for me. Lemme make my own choices in life. THAT is the whole point. Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:20:20 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#980dab5b-d116-498b-a191-8738bf990b88 Rhino 2007-11-27T14:20:20Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#437f5cb3-e7b2-4150-8227-9fda3c1d5775 Come on. We know them, maybe, but how many? Be serious. I saw the video but I think I missd the part where anything sinister happens. Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:56:42 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#437f5cb3-e7b2-4150-8227-9fda3c1d5775 MdJGutie 2007-11-27T07:56:42Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#76233119-49dc-46ad-a272-7bdf552a4ff9 Video that that start this thread. And we all know people that can pay $25,000. . . Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:50:12 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#76233119-49dc-46ad-a272-7bdf552a4ff9 Shooter 2007-11-27T07:50:12Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#d2cd3c16-e1dc-48d0-934c-c997e6df64b3 Which video is that? The one you have to buy? 'Cuz I'm curious, but not that curious. and seriously, who do you know that can pay $25,000? or even a tenth of that? Honestly. Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:06:54 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#d2cd3c16-e1dc-48d0-934c-c997e6df64b3 MdJGutie 2007-11-27T07:06:54Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#5c58a6a1-b85d-4518-aac2-7febf747e253 My buddy that made the video is PhD fellow, erudite and all, even went to Burning Man. If you look on the video he made, he has some links about the ole bohemians. I still like the video he made about me, and my flight over Mt Sinjar, about the Yezidi. But few people wander that far back in time. Larry is so derivative with his Wickerman. . . the least he could do is lower the price. With the war, and inflation, soon $250 will be $25,000. Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:01:43 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#5c58a6a1-b85d-4518-aac2-7febf747e253 Shooter 2007-11-27T07:01:43Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#94065c39-d459-4251-b0a5-94ddd564f9c7 "I was assuming he meant metaphorical or political families, ya know. " Oh, okay, then, because I don't need google to tell me Bill's list of close male family members is pretty short. Close male friends he's got tons of, family, not so much. Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:00:58 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#94065c39-d459-4251-b0a5-94ddd564f9c7 MdJGutie 2007-11-27T07:00:58Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#b695ad5a-57e0-40d4-9849-c4627ec2b9b2 http://www.cfo.doe.gov/me70/manhattan/s-1_photograph.htm Tue, 27 Nov 2007 06:53:48 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#b695ad5a-57e0-40d4-9849-c4627ec2b9b2 Crypto 2007-11-27T06:53:48Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#42a93278-9ff9-4f0b-95e2-b728f83077e4 And a Nobel Laureate and friends. Tue, 27 Nov 2007 06:48:19 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#42a93278-9ff9-4f0b-95e2-b728f83077e4 Crypto 2007-11-27T06:48:19Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#a006d244-212e-4475-a49b-38a8969f5e76 Very short list of members and attendees: http://www.modernhistoryproject.org/mhp/EntityDisplay.php?Entity=BohemianClub Another list: http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/210607_bg.html Tue, 27 Nov 2007 06:46:38 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#a006d244-212e-4475-a49b-38a8969f5e76 Crypto 2007-11-27T06:46:38Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#72f5d500-eda1-4224-ba29-d79b406e720c Great links... NOT. Research isn't Google. http://www.jesus-is-savior.com http://www.infowars.com http://www.prisonplanet.com KK Tue, 27 Nov 2007 06:40:06 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#72f5d500-eda1-4224-ba29-d79b406e720c Kamikaze 2007-11-27T06:40:06Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#1f1dcddd-a8df-4063-948a-df99456ca9d4 <That's hard to imagine. Which male members of the Clinton family would be there frequently I wonder? > Well, you could Google it and see what turns up: http://www.google.com/search?en&q=%22bill+clinton%22+%22bohemian+grove%22 Tue, 27 Nov 2007 06:33:41 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#1f1dcddd-a8df-4063-948a-df99456ca9d4 David 2007-11-27T06:33:41Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#f4ca66c8-ec95-4d79-98a8-9b74e9c6ca50 I was assuming he meant metaphorical or political families, ya know. Tue, 27 Nov 2007 06:27:44 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#f4ca66c8-ec95-4d79-98a8-9b74e9c6ca50 Crypto 2007-11-27T06:27:44Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#b33f8b03-80da-4084-8aef-6c6e78888a8c "It's an all-male encampment, frequented by the Bush and Clinton families," That's hard to imagine. Which male members of the Clinton family would be there frequently I wonder? Think Bill brings his little brother Rodger? Doubtful. Bill's dad died before he was born, and his alcoholic and abusive step dad seems like an odd choice for this little meeting of the rulers of the business world. He's got no sons, so WTF? Tue, 27 Nov 2007 06:21:05 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#b33f8b03-80da-4084-8aef-6c6e78888a8c MdJGutie 2007-11-27T06:21:05Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#72312e0b-534c-4649-9c33-e88c83a8b68e Rhino, Rhino, Rhino. I am dissappointed in you. 1000 (almost) died that night, and they had rehearsed their deaths numerous times before. They were trapped in jungle, or at least rain forest country (now I can put a date on using the old term) far from any town, people and information carefully permitted or denied access. Family members adn survivors, 30 years later still suffer. And you have turned that sufferring into a snide and dismissive remark. Think about it, please. Tue, 27 Nov 2007 06:14:30 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#72312e0b-534c-4649-9c33-e88c83a8b68e Crypto 2007-11-27T06:14:30Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#eac92f5f-4298-427e-b06f-d8101a387c65 True enuff, in the "keen grasp of the obvious kinda way" but Fuckin A. Dude ate too much aluminum in the third grade. But that is mean of me. Why yes, yes it is. Tue, 27 Nov 2007 05:31:07 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#eac92f5f-4298-427e-b06f-d8101a387c65 grouchosuave 2007-11-27T05:31:07Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#892e42ed-0d90-4614-a852-0dfdf077d229 Pass Shunka the Kool-aid while you're at it........ Tue, 27 Nov 2007 05:03:01 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#892e42ed-0d90-4614-a852-0dfdf077d229 Rhino 2007-11-27T05:03:01Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#6f8e8371-8892-4253-a021-f25a0ef1566b "Shunka have you met "Cowboy Angel"? Something tells me you two would get along famously or at the very least swap foil hat designs. Tue, 27 Nov 2007 04:25:13 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#6f8e8371-8892-4253-a021-f25a0ef1566b $item.owner.firstName 2007-11-27T04:25:13Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#18655328-02ad-48bf-a2a1-f804bda50c45 Dear Shunka Wakan I would like to be a part of the New World Order! Can you get me a ticket to the Grove or Burningman?! I tried Rainbow, but they just sat around and got stoned. I want to make a difference while making a pile of money oppressing the Masses! Your friend Kamikaze Kelly Tue, 27 Nov 2007 04:19:53 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#18655328-02ad-48bf-a2a1-f804bda50c45 Kamikaze 2007-11-27T04:19:53Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#318a7c8c-5f81-4dae-8133-f9a5f00ededc The Bohemian Grove is a 2,700-acre redwood grove in Sonoma Co., CA; it's definitely a place where the corporate elites gather, every July, for the "Summer Fire Festival." It's an all-male encampment, frequented by the Bush and Clinton families, Alan Greenspan, Henry Kissinger, and I've seen an old photo with Reagan and Nixon sitting at the same table together. It's admitted, by the Bohemian Grove, that they do the "cremation of care" ritual, wherein they perform a mock human sacrifice to a 40-ft.-tall stone and metal owl statue, a.k.a. Moloch. The "cremation of care" is basically geared towards getting people to burn up their consciences, especially when relating to business, or "the marketplace," as it's referred to in the ritual itselt. It's definitely degenerate behaviour, the music is horrible, and it's definitely a wicked ceremony, at its core. Unfortunately, what's being done at Burning Man is also a mock human sacrifice, and was very polluting. I'm glad to hear about the "Green Man" development, and hope that the people who attend Burning Man will also reject the Bohemian Grove for what it is. Mock human sacrifices isn't a good common ground to bond with, if you catch my drift. The New World Order agenda isn't "all planned" at one place, either; Bohemian Grove is like a big business meeting, and is orchestrated by the same people who are going way over the top to invade every nation they can, steal the resources, and enslave the people of those nations. It's a real situation, and we all need to be vigilant to help shut it down. The global corporate elites are not all-powerful, and they rely on us, the people, the bow down to them so that they can stay in control; history is full of examples of people's revolutions, and we need another on in America, today. It's already happening, so the question now is whether you want to be a part of it or not...Resist and Rebel! Forever Wild, Shunka Wakan Tue, 27 Nov 2007 04:09:55 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#318a7c8c-5f81-4dae-8133-f9a5f00ededc Shunka 2007-11-27T04:09:55Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#6bb8b9a3-fbc7-40b3-859c-1f4c9fb917e7 Think I'm scared of a shag carpet reject that likes oatmeal cookies and is named for Groucho Marx gone Ricky Martin?? You gotta be snarky to think like that......or be ready to go postal. Back away from the keyboard, slowly............. Tue, 27 Nov 2007 04:01:07 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#6bb8b9a3-fbc7-40b3-859c-1f4c9fb917e7 Rhino 2007-11-27T04:01:07Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#ebd2b9ba-993d-4d48-bf98-85a0e2ed5231 "I never watched Sesame Street all that closely...." And you will pay for those sins, you bastard. Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:16:33 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#ebd2b9ba-993d-4d48-bf98-85a0e2ed5231 grouchosuave 2007-11-27T03:16:33Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#df6fdf5c-20cc-498a-8d07-a147df8b0014 EEEK! Busted! I never watched Sesame Street all that closely..... Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:22:03 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#df6fdf5c-20cc-498a-8d07-a147df8b0014 Rhino 2007-11-27T02:22:03Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#62095725-805a-4065-91b1-ebe71dedb9a0 I can tie Old Navy to the Philadelphia experiment, into Project Rainbow, into a concerted effort to manipulate the populations of the USA, England, Canada, and New Zealand using electric music, subliminal messages. so, if given enough thread, I could wrap that yarn into a comfortable sweater. Thanks for keeping us OT, Shooter Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:11:23 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#62095725-805a-4065-91b1-ebe71dedb9a0 *David* 2007-11-27T02:11:23Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#5a413868-e672-4fd9-8e02-e899807685b1 "Bohemian Grover? Sounds like something written for Freddy Mercury to be sung on Sesame Street. "I'm just a poor boy , nobody loves me....." **grover's garbage can closes "He's just a poor boy, living in his garbage can, " Aggghght. No, no, no, no. Groucho's avatar is Cookie Monster, Oscar the Grouch lives in the trashcan (and is green btw). Grover is the skinny blue monster . Sheesh. You people need to pay closer attention. Tue, 27 Nov 2007 01:53:51 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#5a413868-e672-4fd9-8e02-e899807685b1 MdJGutie 2007-11-27T01:53:51Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#27cf49f8-adc7-4e14-90de-c4f200813f27 Yes, David, thanks for pointing out that I have caused more hurt and misinformation by blaming a clothing line and band for world domination. Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:55:31 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#27cf49f8-adc7-4e14-90de-c4f200813f27 Shooter 2007-11-27T00:55:31Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#1edbe7e8-f0c2-4ae0-af48-8b115d405598 If by boys, you mean middle aged men, and by spring break you mean August, you are right. Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:51:43 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#1edbe7e8-f0c2-4ae0-af48-8b115d405598 Crypto 2007-11-26T22:51:43Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#ad275bb8-a9a7-4b02-b84e-0c5708407abe I always thought the Grove was where Skull and Bones frat boys went for Spring Break. Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:08:04 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#ad275bb8-a9a7-4b02-b84e-0c5708407abe Badger 2007-11-26T18:08:04Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#65155eab-4e5d-498e-bd52-cd5762ffcc98 > Never leave you stash on the table in front of Grover. Can you tell me how to get, how to get to sensamia street? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtWVApnmEXA --- rodent (putting the eek in geek) Sun, 25 Nov 2007 21:17:35 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#65155eab-4e5d-498e-bd52-cd5762ffcc98 rodent 2007-11-25T21:17:35Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#e1c13808-1767-45a3-b817-4136deb670c4 And it's SOOOOOO last year......... Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:06:01 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#e1c13808-1767-45a3-b817-4136deb670c4 Rhino 2007-11-25T20:06:01Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#b08fc886-d462-4df5-85f4-0adff38258eb <<The Grove was so much cooler in 95>> Now it's merely a ruling class tailgate party... *sniff* Sun, 25 Nov 2007 18:42:23 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#b08fc886-d462-4df5-85f4-0adff38258eb Rockstar 2007-11-25T18:42:23Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#2d3f75ac-a8fd-4411-b2e4-8e7b5b2c615b I believe that's because they don't care about the world. Sun, 25 Nov 2007 18:41:47 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#2d3f75ac-a8fd-4411-b2e4-8e7b5b2c615b *David* 2007-11-25T18:41:47Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#98af0c6d-edfe-48fd-8b96-ae92cd2970a0 Actually, they make a symbolic sacrifice representing the "cares of the world" so the participants can put aside their everyday worries on the outside just and have fun. Bunch of ritual but not much more creepy than that. Sorry to disappoint you. On the other hand,I don't know of any Burning Man camps that have 8-burner Viking stoves, Sub-Zero refrigerators, and million-dollar renovations. But give us time. Sun, 25 Nov 2007 10:06:55 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#98af0c6d-edfe-48fd-8b96-ae92cd2970a0 Randomizer 2007-11-25T10:06:55Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#c7d61eec-5e27-4ab8-8e15-acdb9123217d Well at least you can pee on the redwoods, and not have to use the damn JotS. Sun, 25 Nov 2007 02:45:36 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#c7d61eec-5e27-4ab8-8e15-acdb9123217d Crypto 2007-11-25T02:45:36Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#b45cbd20-f2c9-4a58-bba8-e25bc6dc9700 The Grove was so much cooler in 95 Sun, 25 Nov 2007 02:42:11 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#b45cbd20-f2c9-4a58-bba8-e25bc6dc9700 grouchosuave 2007-11-25T02:42:11Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#d62f15b1-183a-44ad-9f22-cc28f5947385 How many groves for you then? Sun, 25 Nov 2007 02:17:16 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#d62f15b1-183a-44ad-9f22-cc28f5947385 $item.owner.firstName 2007-11-25T02:17:16Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#3d3fb157-7ccf-49af-a793-96ee87b53ac5 If you're just finding out about the Bohemian Grove you're a little behind the times, I'd say, but as far as both involving pagan ceremonies, they are quite similar, and it's more than obvious that BM is watched over by the our government, but I know burners hate to think they participate in something like that......... Sun, 25 Nov 2007 02:13:07 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#3d3fb157-7ccf-49af-a793-96ee87b53ac5 anomaly 2007-11-25T02:13:07Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#5503e9de-732f-4cfd-a587-02931886e7d0 Bohemian Grover? Sounds like something written for Freddy Mercury to be sung on Sesame Street. "I'm just a poor boy , nobody loves me....." **grover's garbage can closes "He's just a poor boy, living in his garbage can, Spare him a life living on Sesame Street....." I much prefer Ricky Martin singing, "groucho.....suave.........groucho........suave." ala Rico Suave...... Well, then again......maybe not......lol Sun, 25 Nov 2007 02:10:57 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#5503e9de-732f-4cfd-a587-02931886e7d0 Rhino 2007-11-25T02:10:57Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#4e3bce02-14c8-4ca2-9941-4ef98233315a http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSdGeBHI7BU&eurl=http://www.piratenews.org/bushgaygate2.html Sun, 25 Nov 2007 02:09:58 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#4e3bce02-14c8-4ca2-9941-4ef98233315a Tracy 2007-11-25T02:09:58Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#1ca63c89-a1be-434a-8547-f1b10b10cc27 I'll use my playa name...EWWWW Sun, 25 Nov 2007 01:59:11 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#1ca63c89-a1be-434a-8547-f1b10b10cc27 $item.owner.firstName 2007-11-25T01:59:11Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#7b7d89cf-38c2-4fa9-8143-5ddf0505882d (Dammit grouchosuave, you're avatar almost had me writing Bohemian Grover.) That bastard? Take it from me. Never leave you stash on the table in front of Grover. Sun, 25 Nov 2007 01:57:07 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#7b7d89cf-38c2-4fa9-8143-5ddf0505882d grouchosuave 2007-11-25T01:57:07Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#c43cacad-0070-4386-bc9f-3b25b09da31a Okay, thank you, I feel a little less like I'm being boiled in my preconceptions. Sun, 25 Nov 2007 01:53:07 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#c43cacad-0070-4386-bc9f-3b25b09da31a Crypto 2007-11-25T01:53:07Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#d7f7eb67-c309-4ea3-b87d-3b22abd7d392 Karl Rove, too. Of course these are also the sorts that show up at CT with their cameras and that desparation like they've not seen a naked woman in a decade or two. Now, CTing Bohemian Grove would be pretty funny. (Dammit grouchosuave, you're avatar almost had me writing Bohemian Grover.) Sun, 25 Nov 2007 01:52:33 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#d7f7eb67-c309-4ea3-b87d-3b22abd7d392 Crypto 2007-11-25T01:52:33Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#3793dcbe-d933-41dd-8db9-c2a8be139a84 Fuck that explans it. We wuz hoodwinked, by ourselves. Sun, 25 Nov 2007 01:50:24 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#3793dcbe-d933-41dd-8db9-c2a8be139a84 grouchosuave 2007-11-25T01:50:24Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#60ca8eb0-35dd-4eca-afa1-502667f36b80 Yeah, well I'm not THAT Adam. Hehe. Sun, 25 Nov 2007 01:48:36 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#60ca8eb0-35dd-4eca-afa1-502667f36b80 $item.owner.firstName 2007-11-25T01:48:36Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#3bcf1042-847a-4f11-813b-1c861b9cfd16 eww Sun, 25 Nov 2007 01:42:48 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#3bcf1042-847a-4f11-813b-1c861b9cfd16 grouchosuave 2007-11-25T01:42:48Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#d4bb4eef-d1bd-4e17-b3c0-14f2c4da25d0 Yeah, appreciated. There's a bit of "aw shucks, I was wrong" for me, but he nailed what I've heard over the years and added some direct experience. Of course, I'm grateful that Kissinger doesn't show up on the playa. He's a natural shirkcocker in my view. Sun, 25 Nov 2007 01:41:31 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#d4bb4eef-d1bd-4e17-b3c0-14f2c4da25d0 Crypto 2007-11-25T01:41:31Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#647e8ba2-d3d0-495c-ba69-765de9b0770c True that. Appreciated. Sun, 25 Nov 2007 01:39:14 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#647e8ba2-d3d0-495c-ba69-765de9b0770c grouchosuave 2007-11-25T01:39:14Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#23fc307e-6c93-4ce0-a291-c4803d843178 ...but Adam put together a lucid and intelligent post. Sun, 25 Nov 2007 01:36:18 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#23fc307e-6c93-4ce0-a291-c4803d843178 Crypto 2007-11-25T01:36:18Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#5db6ee7f-382e-45f3-b224-604a33923c88 It is where some pretty powerful people put on black and red robes and re-create a human sacrifice (effigy, theoretically) to a 40 foot Owl. The symbolism gets a bit creepy after that. And if Nixon said it gets "faggoty" I don't think he was necessarily referring to consenting male adults. Look into Larry King (not the tv host) and the Boys Town scandal. EEEEWWW! Sun, 25 Nov 2007 01:15:57 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#5db6ee7f-382e-45f3-b224-604a33923c88 Tracy 2007-11-25T01:15:57Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#e67af16d-c959-48a4-a820-16038840e5c7 "As far as I know, Bohemian Groove is a clothing line and a band." Don't forget "Bohemian Grove Laxative" . . . . I feel it working right now ...phrrbbbbt "I demand transparency for the Bohemian Grove!! " Sun, 25 Nov 2007 00:57:51 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#e67af16d-c959-48a4-a820-16038840e5c7 grouchosuave 2007-11-25T00:57:51Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#5068eb23-ff18-4bfb-9f7d-bce9d8776fb4 This was the funniest thing in the wikipedia article: "The Bohemian Grove, that I attend from time to time — the (inaudible) and the others come there — but it is the most faggy goddamn thing that you would ever imagine. The San Francisco crowd that goes in there, it's just terrible. I can't even shake hands with anybody from San Francisco." — President Richard M. Nixon, Some would say the same about Burningman! Sun, 25 Nov 2007 00:53:22 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#5068eb23-ff18-4bfb-9f7d-bce9d8776fb4 $item.owner.firstName 2007-11-25T00:53:22Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#1ee3648c-02bf-43eb-9710-aa4d49933358 Having worked at the airport at Burningman and been at the Santa Rosa Airport during The Bohemian Grove Retreat ,I can say that the planes that the Burners fly are a lot less expensive. Our 'big' plane this last year was a Citation 500. There were several Gulfstream V's last time I saw the planes at STS for BG. I too know people who have worked there and are on the invite list. And that is one other big diff, you don't have to get invited to Burningman! It is no secret that the speakers and many of the participants are very powerful people. I don't buy the hype that they plan all of their evil plots there or anything, but I'm sure it is helpful to them to meet in a casual environment and discuss the latest techniques for rendering souls into cash! All while relaxing with fine wine and a lack of pesky proletariats. And no, not all Burners just bitch either. 'Specially not ME! Sun, 25 Nov 2007 00:42:38 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#1ee3648c-02bf-43eb-9710-aa4d49933358 $item.owner.firstName 2007-11-25T00:42:38Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#e731c7a7-4aca-4f7e-835d-6cb9845fc167 <If you are not familiar with Bohemian Groove....> As far as I know, Bohemian Groove is a clothing line and a band. Bohemian Grove is a place where a bunch of people get together and act silly. As far as world domination and all that, I happen to know people who have worked there and I used to know someone who was on the invitation list. No reports of world domination came from anyone I know who has been there. Sun, 25 Nov 2007 00:19:21 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#e731c7a7-4aca-4f7e-835d-6cb9845fc167 David 2007-11-25T00:19:21Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#f7f8ef2a-b71d-4ab0-9e89-792168a5c283 Yeah, the big difference between BG and BM is that when the participants leave BG they go home and RUN the world. When the peeps leave BM they just bitch about how the world is run ;-) Sat, 24 Nov 2007 23:27:26 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#f7f8ef2a-b71d-4ab0-9e89-792168a5c283 $item.owner.firstName 2007-11-24T23:27:26Z http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#3af06c83-068b-4e18-8df7-71409b9be7fb A friend of mine made this video, taking you into Bohemian Groove, via google earth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R49krShK594 If you are not familiar with Bohemian Groove, it is a much older version of Burning Man, that Larry Harvey seeks to imitate by raising ticket prices. ha ha ha http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove Sat, 24 Nov 2007 23:07:19 GMT http://bm.tribe.net/thread/aba1a492-0b3a-4633-a6f2-0e23cc9dfaea#3af06c83-068b-4e18-8df7-71409b9be7fb Shooter 2007-11-24T23:07:19Z