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Some of you might be familiar with this product --
www.entrepreneur.com/magazin...316.html
Newbies can still order theirs before heading out to the playa.
www.entrepreneur.com/magazin...316.html
Newbies can still order theirs before heading out to the playa.
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Re: Commerce
Wed, July 1, 2009 - 7:25 PMI
Am
Aghast.
I've had a tough day...anybody want to address this?
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Re: Commerce
Wed, July 1, 2009 - 8:03 PMSorry to hear you've had a tough day, KK.
One of the moderators will no doubt be along shortly to clear this out.
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Re: Commerce
Wed, July 1, 2009 - 8:04 PMI don't see what the big deal is, honestly? Aghast? Or are you just being silly and I've missed it?
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They're not selling them on the playa.
It mentions Burning Man only in the context of that's where the idea germinated.
And they give discounts to Burners.
Oooo, gosh, someone who goes to Burning Man is perhaps making a living on a useful product they've created.
SHOCKING.
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Re: Commerce
Wed, July 1, 2009 - 8:06 PMOh wait, or are we aghast because someone posted a link that could be construed as advertising?
My brain hurts.
I still like my Podbelt though. (disclaimer: opinion only, not affiliated with the Podbelt people, your mileage may vary, do not use while sleeping)
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Re: Commerce
Wed, July 1, 2009 - 8:08 PMThe JackRabbit speaks has contained links to this very product. It often will do a bit of promotion for burner businesses.
It's been clearly stated many times that the fact that there is no buying and selling during the event (except the Two Notable Exceptions) does not mean that the LLC is anti all commerce. And given that people will, in fact, buy supplies and gear for the event, it is not a bad thing to steer them to members of the commmunity. -
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My bad
Wed, July 1, 2009 - 8:20 PMI am at fault here.
I apologize.
It's been a rough day, but...no excuses!
My bad.
KK out and off Comm
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Re: Commerce
Wed, July 1, 2009 - 10:49 PM>>It's been clearly stated many times that the fact that there is no buying and selling during the event (except the Two Notable Exceptions) does not mean that the LLC is anti all commerce. And given that people will, in fact, buy supplies and gear for the event, it is not a bad thing to steer them to members of the commmunity.<<
then the capitalist pigs smell a truffle and pose as members of our community to exploit our perceived needs for profit. Build your own damn tool belt. Live the dream. -
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Re: Commerce
Thu, July 2, 2009 - 9:37 AM>Build your own damn tool belt.
In terms of the money and time it would take to
1. Design a pattern
2. Source supplies
3. Buy supplies including tools for construction
4. Acquire necessary construction skills (rivet-setting, snap-setting, rubber/leatherworking, sewing for pods, etc)
5. Assemble toolbelt
...it's way less of an impact for some people just to BUY one and support an actual Burner-based business.
For example, here's a story of a guy travelling all over the world as a project to build his own toaster from scratch:
www.thomasthwaites.com/thomas...ge2.htm
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Re: Commerce
Thu, July 2, 2009 - 10:08 AMI built my own "utility belt" out of military or fashion belts (depending on my fashion or practical needs) combined with canvas military pouches and hardware clips. I personalized my set up with fabric paint and markers. -
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Re: Commerce
Thu, July 2, 2009 - 10:10 AMMilitary surplus and thrift stores are the best.
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Re: Commerce
Thu, July 2, 2009 - 7:16 PM
people.tribe.net/r0ssypeng...cc10e68d8b
i made that with cargo pockets...and it works well to hold my stuff
while working to set up camp etc...i also wear a fishing vest type thing...that has lots of pockets
or this....it's sewed to a wide elastic belt...so it slips over naked skin....or any other "outfit", and has a large zipper pocket with secret inside pocket...
reconstructedclothing.tribe.net/ph...196
i've also taken a canvas belt...and sewn pockets to it.....D rings...etc...all from thriftstore finds..or free stuff.
any sort of leather pouch that slips on a belt ......or old purse...cargo pockets, tool belt pocket attachements...etc...
you can really customize something to your unique personal needs.
alls it takes is some time, patience...and a little needle work.
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Re: Commerce
Fri, July 3, 2009 - 12:25 PMI'm not discouraging creativity and DIY....and there's a ton of cool stuff out there from people who've made their own.
I'm just trying to say that it's not always Bad to just BUY some things sometimes (particularly when it's supporting Burner-owned or other small business interests). I put a lot of time and energy into creating my own costumes and other stuff....but some things, I don't bother reinventing the wheel-- it just makes more sense for me from a time-and-materials standpoint to just purchase something from someone who has it figured out. (Podbelt, bras, camelbak/backpack, etc.).
I don't know anyone who makes their own tent or bicycle or cooler. Everyone has to draw their own line about what works for them. -
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Re: Commerce
Fri, July 3, 2009 - 4:20 PMI've tried to make my own cooler, but my terra cotta proto-type was just too heavy and too fragile. When it broke I had to bury it so that no body would notice the red dust. -
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Re: Commerce
Sat, July 4, 2009 - 7:06 AMYou should try hay-bale ice chests. They're very sturdy and have good insulation. Admittedly, they wind up being the size of a shetland pony just to hold a six-pack.
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Re: Commerce
Sun, July 5, 2009 - 2:13 PMreally you don't know anyone whose's built thier own bike? Are you in LA ?
for folks that do want to build their own bikes many urban and small cities have free or low cost bike workshops where the parts are all free and you just have to build the bike yourself.
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Re: Commerce
Thu, July 2, 2009 - 10:59 AMBrody, Brody, Brody
Are you trying to talk sense to a provocateur? Cause, um, good luck with that.
On the other hand, someone had to say it, and I'm glad it wasn't me. Thank you, Brody. -
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Re: Commerce
Fri, July 3, 2009 - 12:20 PM>Are you trying to talk sense to a provocateur?
Not so much them (head:brick wall), but anyone else who might reflexively agree with them without stopping to think about it.
Just providing perspective in the thread for anyone coming on through....
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Re: Commerce
Fri, July 3, 2009 - 9:37 PM"For example, here's a story of a guy travelling all over the world as a project to build his own toaster from scratch:
www.thomasthwaites.com/thomas...ge2.htm"
That is so cool, I going have to follow that project.
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Re: Commerce
Sun, July 5, 2009 - 2:10 PMreally?
1. get belt
2. make or use existing small kit bags-need fabric, thread and something to cut them with
3. attach with carbiners
wow that's hard, now you wouldn't have the smug satisfaction of buying something just for burning man and from a Real (c) burner-based business but you also wouldn't have spent much money either and you would be reusing so you could be all smug about being "green". -
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Re: Commerce
Sun, July 5, 2009 - 5:06 PM>now you wouldn't have the smug satisfaction of buying something just for burning man and from a Real (c) burner-based business
I guess you're called snappingturtle for a reason, eh? Someone put a bug up your ass or something?
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Re: Commerce
Wed, July 1, 2009 - 11:16 PMgive it a break KK. You're in the military. Surely you have something similar to this as part of your work ensemble. Why is it OK for you and not others - especially if they aren't shilling for BM?
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Re: Commerce
Thu, July 2, 2009 - 1:18 PMI dont see the big deal? I can find hundreds of sites that sell pod belts (cooler than that). 99.9 % of pod belts that you see on the playa are NOT home made. -
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Re: Commerce
Thu, July 2, 2009 - 7:23 PMyes, buy your socks for cheap at walmart but DON'T give your money to a burner who has designed a product perfectly useful on the playa. -
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Re: Commerce
Sat, July 4, 2009 - 8:08 AMdidn't you know? burners can only pay money to non-burners. -
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Re: Commerce
Sun, July 5, 2009 - 1:05 PMoh, yes...i did get that memo, but I threw it out before reading it. thanks for the reminder. -
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Re: Commerce
Sun, July 5, 2009 - 3:12 PMNope, knowing about Neon she used it as a piece of scratch paper to make a list.....
Why, here it is:
Neon's List for day....
1) Get snarky with Crypto.
2) tell Rhino, Bobzilla, and Elaine what wonderful mods they are for not deleting a meaningful discussion on the 'Commerce thread'.
Wonder what I'm doing with Neon's list. I'll have to give it back to her. -
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Re: Commerce
Sun, July 5, 2009 - 4:02 PMWait a minute, I though it said Crypto gets snarky with me.
...and I thought I was done with that list!
(since one mod already read my mind, I didn't have anything left to do with #2)
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