This morning, at approximately 3:00 AM, during the lunar eclipse, the Man was torched atop the Green Pavillion. Fire crews were able to put out the blaze but the Man structure, while still standing, looks to be fully charred. This long time burner is pissed and sends along his deepest condolences to the Organization and the team that has worked so hard to put the event together. This is not a hoax.
-
Re: Sad news from thye playa
Tue, August 28, 2007 - 3:50 AMThis is so fucked up. I don't even know how I feel. Arson on the playa. Whoever thought that concept would ever make sense? I guess if they catch the responsible party we'll get to see how dedicated to radical self expression we really are. -
-
Re: Sad news from thye playa
Tue, August 28, 2007 - 3:54 AMYeah, very, very fucked up. -
-
The cost of too much exposure.
Wed, August 29, 2007 - 6:47 AMGreat - so the growing exposure throughout the years of BM really HAS resulted in the decline of BM and it's spirit.
I knew it - I knew it - I knew it....
Now I can only fear for the direction of BM next year ~ people will be doing even more retarded things with the excuse of "radical self expression"..
This is all why it's best that BM stays on the lay low and the hush-hush.. Because dumbasses from elsewhere hear about it, they do things to ruin it, it *makes the news*, and more dumbasses all over hear about it.
So it'll likely be worse next year. fuck.
-
-
-
Re: Sad news from thye playa
Tue, August 28, 2007 - 4:36 AMplease tell me this is a joke. I know you said it's not a hoax, but I can't find anything anywhere else about it. Please give more info to confirm. Thanks. -
-
Re: Sad news from thye playa
Tue, August 28, 2007 - 5:12 AM5:10 AM Media Mecca is preparing a statement -
-
Re: Sad news from thye playa
Wed, August 29, 2007 - 12:37 PM
-
-
Statement from the playa
Tue, August 28, 2007 - 5:27 AMAt approximately 2:58am local time, a fire ignited the Burning Man figure and the center Green Man Pavilion at the Burning Man event in Black Rock City, Nevada.
Black Rock City Emergency Services Department units responded from Stations Three, Five, and Nine and put the fire out within approximately 23 minutes. There were no reported injuries. The Man is still standing, and an assessment is underway to determine the structural integrity of The Man and the Green Man Pavilion. The event will continue as scheduled.
An arson investigation is currently under way, and is ongoing. There is no confirmed cause of ignition at this time.
No further information is available at this time. More information will be released tomorrow morning after the investigation can safely be continued.
-Andie Grace, Burning Man Communications Manager -
-
Re: Statement from the playa
Tue, August 28, 2007 - 5:47 AMas perverted as it sounds, are there any pics floating around? I hope someone figures out who did it and justice is served. Could have gone a lot worse, yes, but still not cool. -
-
Re: Statement from the playa
Tue, August 28, 2007 - 5:57 AMI know of a couple of people that havent flown out yet, and i know it's probably just heartbreaking for them.. i'm so sorry this had to happen.. but i hope someone beats the crap out of who ever did this. It's just childish.. -
-
Re: Statement from the playa
Tue, August 28, 2007 - 6:35 AMOh dear.
If he's still standing, he'll probably stand until he's ready to topple on Saturday. He's tough, fuck, he's The Man.
The playa will be dark without his guiding light...
and boy, if it was arson...the bad karma thats gonna fall on that person, holy shit. -
-
Unsu...
Re: Statement from the playa
Tue, August 28, 2007 - 6:47 AMIf it was arson?
I'm sorry but I can't believe it could be anything else. Let's see, what causes things to catch fire:
Lightning - no
Focussed sunlight - no
Unmonitored campfires - no
Sparks from nearby fires - not likely
The man only burns when he is lit intentionally. That is the way he is designed. This was intentional and unplanned. I would call that arson.
Last year when we were cleaning up the piles of garbage left behind at our art project, the Sugar Cube, and surveying the playa after all the yahoos had finally left, we made a pact not to come back to Burning Man next year. Coming this year was a difficult decision to make but we wanted to give it one more chance to be the Burning Man experience that we have yet to have, after three years. Now the yahoos have truly taken over the playa.
I am angry but I am not going to let this impact my upcoming adventure. It is my reality to create in any way I choose. The yahoos no longer exist to me.
Sorry to ramble here but I am just waking up.
-
-
Re: Statement from the playa
Tue, August 28, 2007 - 7:02 AMOne word.....sad! What the fuck is happening to our "community". Seeing this almost makes me sorta glad that I am not there this year. How depressing ;-(
-
Re: Statement from the playa
Wed, August 29, 2007 - 12:38 PM
-
-
-
-
-
Re: Statement from the playa
Tue, August 28, 2007 - 7:56 AMThank you BRC Emergency Services.
In appreciation for the efforts of those who built him and those who got in there to save him,
I'll be there in anticipation for the scheduled burn.
-
Re: Statement from the playa
Tue, August 28, 2007 - 8:03 AMHeheheheh heh heh... I love it!!!!! I thinjk it's kinda interesting at the least, especially with the phrase used: "...arson investigation." Hee-larry-ious. Screw your "arson" investigation. And screw everybody's "sadness"...As if this diminished the actual substance of the week in any real sense. This is pretty amusing and a tempest in a teacup. -
-
Re: Statement from the playa
Tue, August 28, 2007 - 10:17 AMBullshit.
The Sat night burn means a lot of different things to a lot of different people. Everyone has the right to whatever it is that they want/need from this event, and for someone to hijack OUR experience is just selfish. -
-
Re: Statement from the playa
Tue, August 28, 2007 - 10:22 AMKudos to you, I totally agree.
-
Re: Statement from the playa
Tue, August 28, 2007 - 11:10 AM"Rights" are a fiction. The commons or shared space, experience and symbol veers afloat a sea of constant renegotiation between everyone involved and the natural divergences of subjectivity ...And isn't the utilization of symbolism dependent more on investment and sincerity than the corporeal? Plus there are any number of "OUR experience(s)" to be bandied about... What makes you so all-fired definitive or declarative? -
-
Re: Statement from the playa
Thu, September 6, 2007 - 6:48 PMrights are a fiction? How about agreements? When you buy that ticket, when you walk in that gate, you agree to certain things...not setting fire to other people's art is one of them
how about RESPECT, is that a fiction too? Integrity? How about not being a self centered asshole?
all your deconstructionist sat words may have impressed people in your junior year at reed or whatever, but what flies in the real world is caring about other people and showing a little awareness that they have feelings, needs, and yes, rights.
is that invested and sincere enough for ya?
by the way, as far as investment and authenticity being more important than the corporeal ("mind over matter" might have been easier):
that wasnt addis' decision to make, and this is the point you dont seem to get.
-
-
-
-
-
Re: Sad news from thye playa
Wed, August 29, 2007 - 1:02 PMSorry Honey - it's true...
Arrest made after Burning Man torched early
40-foot effigy supposed to be set ablaze at end of counterculture festival
Brad Horn / Nevada Appeal via AP
Workers assess the damage to the so-called Burning Man structure in the Black Rock Desert in Gerlach, Nev., on Tuesday. A performance artist allegedly lit the structure on fire four days before the festival.
View related photos
MSNBC video
Man arrested for torching Burning Man early
Aug. 29: A man is arrested after allegedly torching the Burning Man four days early. MSNBC's Amy Robach reports.
MSNBC
Stand and be counted
What keeps you up at night? Gut Check America is your chance to tell us what really matters in our country and to help determine what topics MSNBC.com covers. Click here to learn more and get involved.
Photo features More
Nevada Appeal The Week in Pictures
Floods, fires, storms, quake and a giraffe named Jimiyu.
Getty Images PhotoBlog
View and discuss the pictures and issues that caught our eyes
FirstPerson
Far-Out Americana
See photos of quirky landmarks that you sent in! Click "launch."
Resource guide
FBI most wanted
Internet fraud
FBI crime alerts
Homicide trends
Related Stories | What's this?
Man arrested with deputies sentenced to 180 days in jail
Most Popular
• Most Viewed • Top Rated • Most E-mailed
The Gulf Coast's struggle back
Arrest made after Burning Man torched early
Taliban militants free 3 South Korean hostages
U.S. hands detained Iranians to Iraq authorities
Sen. Craig denies sex charge, says ‘I am not gay’
Most viewed on MSNBC.com
Iraq corruption whistleblowers face penalties
‘Everybody May Not Make It Out’
Good Samaritan felt mother’s ‘pain and panic’
Dolphin's new tail can help human amputees
Casey: National Guard under record stress
Most viewed on MSNBC.com
Arrest made after Burning Man torched early
CDC warns Texas to keep an eye out for dengue
BeliefWatch: Reincarnate
Book on male penguins tops complaint list
Building green, saving green
Most viewed on MSNBC.com
Updated: 7:45 p.m. PT Aug 28, 2007
SAN FRANCISCO - Burning Man became Burnt Man four days early on Tuesday, and a San
Francisco performance artist was arrested on suspicion of igniting the signature figure of the counterculture festival in the remote Nevada desert.
The early morning fire scorched about 85 percent of the structure, Burning Man spokeswoman Andie Grace said.
Event engineers decided it would be best to dismantle it and rebuild a less elaborate version, accomplishing in two days what normally takes weeks so the figure would be finished in time for Saturday night’s scheduled burning, she said.
The approximately 40-foot-tall wood and neon structure was supposed to go up in flames in the ceremonial climax of the weeklong annual event.
Burning Man, an art, music and performance festival that draws thousands of people, began in San Francisco in 1986 and moved to Nevada’s Black Rock Desert in 1990. That year, the effigy was accidentally cut up with a chain saw and had to be reassembled before the ritual burning, Grace said.
Many festival-goers who were awake watching Tuesday’s lunar eclipse said they saw a man deliberately ignite the figure at about 3 a.m., Grace said.
“It was in plain sight of many people,” she said. “Everyone is looking at it this morning, this big black figure in the sky and that wasn’t supposed to burn, saying, ’Now what do we do?”’
No injuries were reported, and the festival’s in-house fire department, the Black Rock City Emergency Services Department, extinguished the fire in less than half an hour, Grace said.
The fire also damaged part of the Green Man Pavilion, the exhibition space on which the figure was perched, Grace said.
Suspect posts bond
Paul Addis, 35, of San Francisco, was booked into the Pershing County, Nev., jail on suspicion of arson, illegal possession of fireworks, destruction of property and resisting a public officer, according to the sheriff’s department. He posted a $25,632 bond, a sheriff’s dispatcher said.
Sheriff’s officials did not know whether he had a lawyer. No one answered at two phone numbers listed in his name.
Addis is an actor and writer who is active in the San Francisco arts scene and recently portrayed Hunter S. Thompson in a play about the late journalist known for his drug-fueled lifestyle, according to entertainment listings posted on the Internet.
Grace said she assumed the early burn was timed to coincide with the eclipse.
“It’s obviously a pretty selfish act, and people are disappointed about that, but spirits overall are pretty high,” she said.
-
-
Re: Sad news from thye playa
Tue, August 28, 2007 - 7:07 AMPictures:
ideas.4brad.com/news-burni...urns-monday -
-
Re: Sad news from thye playa
Tue, August 28, 2007 - 7:22 AMdamn, thanks for the pics. That's fucked up. -
-
Re: Sad news from thye playa
Tue, August 28, 2007 - 7:35 AMOh i'm so glad I stayed hom this year.
The authorities would be at my tent door my morning.
" Real Burningman burns on Tuesday"
-
-
-
Re: Sad news from thye playa
Tue, August 28, 2007 - 7:56 AMno shit! WTF???? wow, i'm dropping off my roomates on thursday to fly up to the playa, so many newbiews this year going, and they will not get to experience what we've been experiencing for years...that's fucked up!
-
-
Re: Sad news from thye playa
Tue, August 28, 2007 - 8:11 PMThanks for the photo link, Tapestry.
-
-
Re: Sad news from thye playa
Tue, August 28, 2007 - 7:38 AMI hope they catch whoever did this. so unbelievable. -
-
Re: Sad news from thye playa
Tue, August 28, 2007 - 7:52 AMFUCK YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
three years ago we talked about burning the man on Tuesday night. What would happen to all the order? What would happen to all the attachments and expectation? it would create a REAL BURNING MAN...without constraint.
The only reason we didn't do it (cuz we had some real "ins" in the inside and could probably bribe them) was because of the safety issue.
Other than that I say FUCK waiting til Saturday....rattle the damned cage. Burning Man is such a conglomerate, consumer, orderly, play by the rules, ho down that it's nice to see it get rattled.
BURN THE MAN ON TUESDAY! -
-
Re: Sad news from thye playa
Tue, August 28, 2007 - 8:16 AM>Burning Man is such a conglomerate, consumer, orderly, play by the rules, ho down
Then why are you in this Tribe? Why are you supporting Burning Man? Just to spread negativity and brainwashing from your guru? -
-
Re: Sad news from thye playa
Tue, August 28, 2007 - 8:39 AMnews.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/frontpage
i can't believe it... -
-
Re: Sad news from thye playa
Tue, August 28, 2007 - 8:42 AMomfg...
what the hell is wrong with people...
im freaking so sad about this...
-
-
Re: Sad news from thye playa
Tue, August 28, 2007 - 8:53 AMI have to say I am rather torn by this.
On the one hand I think it really sucks that someone would do this and show such little respect. On the other, I am also thinking this may be a good shake up as someone has stated earlier.
Each year we go to the playa to see the man burn on Saturday and the Temple on Sunday..... good, bad or indeifferent it is going to be interesting to hear the stories and the emotions coming from BRC after the event is over.
Seems to me that they probably lost alot o0f the lighting on the man now and so people may be losing their way more often. Isn't there a new moon this year????? -
-
Re: Sad news from thye playa
Tue, August 28, 2007 - 9:04 AMoh shit, heathers back.
don't forget my dear, you are brainwashed as well.
as am i.
they are called opinions.
haha
whatever people! COME ON CHEER UP!
its the burn, get used to it.
they used to light the whole city on fire.
I understand our attatchments. for a second i felt bad too. . .
then i said. ...what the fuck. . . fuck it.
what are we really attached to.
let .... it.....go..
LOVE YOU ALL !!! -
-
Best. Burn. Ever.
Tue, August 28, 2007 - 9:07 AMNot sad....awesome.
I watched it and loved every moment.
BURNING MAN, fuck yeah!
-
Re: Sad news from thye playa
Tue, August 28, 2007 - 9:08 AMand.. p.s.
CHEER UP YALL!
LETS GET POSITIVE!!!
burn that fucker! hahahahahahahahahaha!
=)
-
-
Re: Sad news from thye playa
Tue, August 28, 2007 - 10:22 AMi wonder how this will effect the rising energy of the party over the week. the feeling of climax at the end. the temple is of course at a new level of amazingness this year.
-
Re: Isn't there a new moon this year?????
Tue, August 28, 2007 - 6:59 PMThere are 12 or 13 every year.
Oh, you meant during the event.
No, it's a full moon. All lunar eclipses occur during the full moon. Because that's the only time the earth's shadow could hit it.
Now the year there's a solar eclipse on playa during the event--or even without the event...
-
-
-
so, um...
Tue, August 28, 2007 - 8:03 PMhas anybody else noticed that the first topic under the "updates" column happened to be...
"Today's Obituaries" :^o
-
-
-
Re: Sad news from thye playa
Wed, August 29, 2007 - 6:39 AMIf you don't appreciate the way of BM, then you don't even deserve being apart of it.
It's unappreciative people who have ruined the overall vibes of BM over the past years - people who fuck things up for the Burner community (like the arsonist) and people like you not appreciating it for what it is.
I'm sad to say that i'm glad I didn't go this year. population this year; 40 thousand? And next year... 45 thousand ~ about 22K will be of dumbasses who just don't have the BM spirit. -
-
Re: Sad news from thye playa
Wed, August 29, 2007 - 9:08 AMGod! I fucking hate those people who don't think like me! -
-
Re: Sad news from thye playa
Wed, August 29, 2007 - 11:32 AMGetting so tired of people comparing this to burning someone's art. THIS WAS NOT SOMEONE'S ART! I think at one time, the man was art, even though Larry told me he disagrees. Now it is a corporate logo that doesn't belong at an event that bans corporate logos. You can tell yourself that it is owned by the community, but try to capitalize on it and you will quickly see who really owns it. Yes, people toil on its construction every year as a gift to the community--dedicated and skilled craftsmen all, and maybe artists in their own right. But let's face it--in building the Man they are essentially sign fabricators. (I've been a sign fabricator myself.) They are not making an artistic statement by following the cutout pattern. The man is no longer art and Larry said it never was. Stop comparing this to burning someone's art.
-
-
-
-
-
Re: Sad news from thye playa
Tue, August 28, 2007 - 9:10 AMMy reaction depends on the spirit in which it was done. If it was just some idiot raver, that's kind of fucked up, but I'm not sad.
If it was a prankster, eh.
Something in me smells a message, some rebellion, in this. There has been a lot of buzz about the event "selling out" this year, and this seems like the sort of thing one might do in protest. I find that kind of exciting. What can I say, my morals just do not agree with the anarchistic streak in me.
Long live the spirit of Burning Man. -
-
Re: Sad news from thye playa
Tue, August 28, 2007 - 9:15 AMI to smell a statement in protest of the rules and order. While I enjoy this cage rattling, I don't agree with burning up others creations. The only solution now, lock the creators and fire starter in the thunder dome, playa justice time!!!!
-