This is great news. Many a time I've been out there on that playa in need of a tasty snack. Yes, I know about all that silly stuff about radical self-reliance, but stopping at Vons to buy food is such a hassle and the piped music in there is nothing I could dance to.
So here's all you have to do. Send cash to Benjamen from "Divine Nourishment" and he'll do all the work for you. And here's the best part, it's only $217. He even said I can pay him right there on the playa at 2 o'clock and D. Score.
No joke. This is awesomeness.
So here's all you have to do. Send cash to Benjamen from "Divine Nourishment" and he'll do all the work for you. And here's the best part, it's only $217. He even said I can pay him right there on the playa at 2 o'clock and D. Score.
No joke. This is awesomeness.
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Re: Food will be sold on the playa this year.
Fri, August 8, 2008 - 6:33 PMI really hope that this is a joke.
Good sock, Payne -
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Re: Food will be sold on the playa this year.
Fri, August 8, 2008 - 7:47 PMIsn't it about time for glennnzzzzz to chime in? -
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Re: Food will be sold on the playa this year.
Fri, August 8, 2008 - 7:52 PMFuck. You can buy t-shirt on the burningman website. Why not food on the playa. *shakes head in disgust* -
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Re: Food will be sold on the playa this year.
Fri, August 8, 2008 - 11:27 PMand I'm dealin' blackjack on the Trash Fence,
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Re: Food will be sold on the playa this year.
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 11:05 AMIf I send him more money, will he attend Burningman for me and tell me if had a good time?
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Re: Food will be sold on the playa this year.
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 1:00 PMActually ..... it's not a joke. -
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Re: Food will be sold on the playa this year.
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 1:02 PMRight! I am not kidding!
No Funny Stuff!
Serious!
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Re: Food will be sold on the playa this year.
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 1:42 PMI'm holding out for the Burning Hookers myself :)
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Re: Food will be sold on the playa this year.
Sun, August 10, 2008 - 5:10 PMno, its not a joke. just like 'camp fees', other camps provide food for their campers, and in this case, others who want their food provided for the week. it is a reasonable fee, however, even though i participated one year, and rather morally opposed to it. what about giving and sharing, folks? benjamin is a good friend. i wish him the best. and i will not be participating in 'divine nourishment' on the playa. but i'd be happy to share food with ya'll.
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Testimonial
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 12:10 PMI've talked to somebody who has used this service and she had nothing but good things to say so if you want to hear first hand about her experience, check out this video:
tinyurl.com/6q7sp6
My two cents: I don't know Ben and I've never had his meals. So nothing personal. But the notion of paying for a meal service by a vendor on the playa strikes me as odd and against the ten principles.
But today is Saturday and I'm not in church.
Signed,
The Church Lady of BRC
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Re: Testimonial
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 1:03 PMI don't know Ben and I've never tried his meals either.
But that has nothing to do with it.
The point is he's selling food and that's in not what BM is about. -
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Re: Testimonial
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 1:09 PMWhat is Burningman about agian?
I keep forgetting. -
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Re: Testimonial
Wed, August 13, 2008 - 8:35 PM"radical self-reliance". also sex , art, fire, and pretty costumes -
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Re: Testimonial
Tue, August 19, 2008 - 7:07 AMSex ? Burning man is about Sex ? I knew about the fire and art, and purdy sexy costumes, but I had no clue about the sex. Ima have to get me some of that. =)~!
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Re: Testimonial
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 1:13 PMSo are you endorsing this or not, Paynie? Why give free publicity on this service? Your original post is so vague it's difficult to tell if you're a promoter or a detractor.
For the record and since you did bring this up: where do you come down on Divine Nourishment? Yay or nay?
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Re: Testimonial
Sun, August 10, 2008 - 5:11 PMyeah, then agian, neither is paying for camping beyond the ticket price. -
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Re: Testimonial
Sun, August 10, 2008 - 5:16 PMWe've been through all of this a hundred times.
There are tour companies who will do it all for you if you give them the money.
Pathetic, but who really cares.
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Re: Food will be sold on the playa this year.
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 1:46 PMokay,
so let me get this straight.
1. divine nourishment has offered to provide you with food, already cooked for you on a daily basis for $217.
2. i'm assuming that this concept is 'new to you', even though people have been doing this on playa for years and years now.
3. i assume that you have judged this idea as 'wrong' and now that you have made a whole thread about it, you assume that all of us are supposed to jump on the douchebag bandwagon with you and go stab this person.
have i got it right?
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Re: Food will be sold on the playa this year.
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 2:04 PMI'm guessing he's agin it on the basis of the whole 'no vending' thing, but that's just a guess. This comes up every year and every year someone else brings up the whole "You drop a bundle at Costco on the way in, why not throw some of that cash a fellow burner's way?" line and it goes like that. -
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Re: Food will be sold on the playa this year.
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 2:10 PMRadical Self-Reliance...what part of that isn't clear? Oh can I buy slurppees there?
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Sat, August 9, 2008 - 2:24 PMto me, vending is when you can walk right up and purchase from a stranger, with no previous agreement in place. that one can assume there will be a fixed meal, paid for per meal, and that the obligation ends there. just like a restaurant.
it seems to me that divine nour. people are offering more than that. like a shared kitchen, you buy-in to the week long costs of being fed. also, does this money pay for camp fees too? i just don't have enough information to understand why this is wrong. chances are, you have to pre-arrange it with them so that you can eat, even if they let you delay payment until during event. i doubt that i could walk into their camp and order up a tasty snack and just pay for it right there.
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Re: Food will be sold on the playa this year.
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 2:37 PMUnless you only bring food you've grown yourself how radically self-reliant are we anyway?
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Re: Food will be sold on the playa this year.
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 2:54 PMI'm pretty sure you can't join on the playa without a prior agreement. Also in this vein always comes up the "self reliance" of a camp shower, kitchen, evap pond, shade structure, and the like.
My first year at BM was as part of a theme camp that was part of a village. We contributed money, labor, ideas, supplies. At least most of us did. Some people rolled up the day we left with no prior word that they had any plans to join us and were welcomed, but man, if they had the means they had to fork over a monetary contribution as it was too late to make up for all the prep they didn't help with. Others were part of the group at it's inception, but had other firm commitments and couldn't make it to build parties and meetings. They could, however, contribute monetarily and did.
DN asks for a monetary contribution, or time, or both. If you can't (or won't) contribute time, you have to contribute more money. The thing that really gets people about DN is that they ask people if they want to join who have no ties to them. I think if Bouncy Bouncy Club sent Paynie an email asking if he wanted to be a part of their communal kitchen, his reaction wouldn't be as severe (if it were negative at all) and that's because that's a generally accepted (though not universally excepted) path to eating on the playa.
I'm on the fence here. I've always been a part of a communal kitchen, and have managed to never cook on a camp-out though I can cook up a storm at home. I contribute in plenty of other ways gladly, but "outdoor cooking" is an oxymoron to me. -
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Sat, August 9, 2008 - 5:38 PMI have no issue with camp kitchens.
RND has a camp kitchen.
But you have to be part of the RND to eat there. No problem.
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Re: Food will be sold on the playa this year.
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 6:11 PMok, so it's okay to share a kitchen in your own camp, but not someone else's? but, what if....
what if i were camping with people who do not have a shared kitchen? i could not go eat with my other friends, and invest in their kitchen???
what if i hate camp drama, and desire to camp alone, yet i don't want to eat alone? please explain what is wrong with investing in someone else's kitchen and making new friends there?
clearly, this is not a case of vending. i think it's cool that there are people who want to share their kitchen with others. i think you are getting all excited over nothing. -
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Re: Food will be sold on the playa this year.
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 7:15 PMI'm another who doesn't cook well. And I'm a damn picky eater. It's possible that some of my trouble with the playa goes back to food issues. I'm assuming that whoever is doing this loves to cook. Shouldn't we bring our best selves to the playa? (I can't belive I wrote that. As soon as this post is done, it's off to the vomitorium.) If our best self is someone who loves to cook food and serve it to others should we squelch that? And is asking the diners to chip in for ingredients and propane so bad?
But I do have mixed feelings. But we do have differing gifts.
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Re: Food will be sold on the playa this year.
Sun, August 10, 2008 - 2:28 PMMost of my troubles on playa DO go back to food issues. My first two years out there I didnt eat for shit and I paid for it. This year I looked for a camp who could provide a meal a day (and of course I plan to contribute). Point is, hell I dont know what my point is. I really dont give a rat's asshole.
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Sat, August 9, 2008 - 2:45 PMYou are correct. I am against the idea.
What if we all did this?
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Sat, August 9, 2008 - 2:52 PMoh! so sharing a kitchen and the costs of that is wrong?! -
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Grouchosuave's Yellow Snowcone Shack
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 3:12 PM....is now selling Yellow Pie playaside, burnkidies!
~~~~~ "Cooked" while you wait.~~~~~~
~~~~~~~`Only $4.95 each!!!!~~~~~~~~
---------Daily: 9, Noon and 3 !!~~~~~~~~~
````````while my bladde--,errr,--
``````````````while Supplies Last~~~~~~~~
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Re: Food will be sold on the playa this year.
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 3:12 PMI suppose Ben has you to thank for all this free publicity, Paynie.
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Re: Food will be sold on the playa this year.
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 5:51 PMBut it’s the principle………… Think or the pink camp on 2:00 and the outer ring with their ocean liner RV’s and electric go peds for all the pink young things with paid foot servants and their videos….that’s worthy to not be on Paynie's list for some reason.
I would do DN again this year if for it not being on the other side of the city from my camp this year and yes a simple net search will take you to the right place.
Per prearranged agreements and with greenmoon's camp last year Ben's food was perfect and inspired. The time required in the kitchen created a couple of friendships I will always treasure. The compost heap was a work of art that grew more beautiful every day.
Ben is a beautiful talented man and you should all meet him to talk about one of his passions, food and nourishment while on the Playa. I’ll always eat better on and off the Playa after his instruction.
Think of this Post as coming from burningmans ol’ Rush L. There has to be a reason behind his angry obsession. This year appears different, last year his rally against DN gathered more followers. -
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Sat, August 9, 2008 - 6:00 PMI'm especially torn because I understand Ben makes vegan meals and good vegan food is hard to find, quadruply hard to find on the play
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Re: Food will be sold on the playa this year.
Sun, August 10, 2008 - 2:29 PMPaynie do you pay for your drugs on playa, or off? -
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Re: Food will be sold on the playa this year.
Sun, August 10, 2008 - 3:15 PMAhhh yes, some people hate commercial transactions on the playa but have no issues shelling out cash for some blow once they get there.
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Sun, August 10, 2008 - 3:41 PMNo.
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Re: Food will be sold on the playa this year.
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 9:24 PMSo "Divine Nourishment" is the name of a theme camp at Burning Man, a catering business in the default world, or both?
And at the scale they operate, $217 per consumer is strictly cost of goods and transport, or also covers salaries and profit?
Just trying to understand the basic facts here...
Lucifer
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Sat, August 9, 2008 - 9:26 PMAt 217 I can't think there's much profit. Unless they're serving Krusty Brand Imitation Gruel. Always possible. I guess the repeat business numbers would tell us. -
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Re: Food will be sold on the playa this year.
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 9:43 PMI'll cook your food for the low low price of $215, and I'll even throw in a free 'black with white logo' t-shirt ;)**
Still think the price is steep at over $10/meal for 3 meals a day, even including gas/transport...better be Lobster :) Would be funny if the guy showed up with ramen, jello and dry granola ;) Seriously though, I really have no problem with it.
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Re: Food will be sold on the playa this year.
Sun, August 10, 2008 - 2:33 AMTwo Words.
Bacon! -
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Re: Food will be sold on the playa this year.
Sun, August 10, 2008 - 2:01 PMUhh, Bacon is one word.
Unless your, Baked On (insert ur 420 of choice here)
Oh, damn, that would be three words.
Next!
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Re: Food will be sold on the playa this year.
Sun, August 10, 2008 - 3:32 AMThe basic facts here are ....
If we all did what DN is doing, BM is over.
Should The Golden Café only serve drinks to people who have pre-paid? -
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Re: Food will be sold on the playa this year.
Sun, August 10, 2008 - 7:29 AMactually, thousands of people already do this each year. and burningman is still going on, so i think maybe, you are wrong.
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Re: Food will be sold on the playa this year.
Sun, August 10, 2008 - 10:09 AMName one other kitchen that recruits people not in their camp.
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Re: Food will be sold on the playa this year.
Sun, August 10, 2008 - 5:54 PMWow....you seem to be overly obsessed with defending this idea.
No...actually....thousands of people arent doing it.
Thousands of people are, however, preparing FREE meals on the playa.
Just off the top of my head...two years ago there was that awesome Krishna camp that cooked dinner every night. Last year there was a vegetarian sushi place, the tuna guys, pancakes, and who can forget the oh-so-awes
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