I thnk that that would be better as a private thing. If you start getting too formal, then you've got to do 501(3)(c) or something, and it loses it's immediacy. Also, there's this thing where people might start to pretend to be burners--although I will admit it's unfair to the burners who are not plugged into the networks that make it happen. I don't know if you want it to follow the Burners without Borders thing--which would be informal, and help as an immediate responce when something happens. It happens a lot in this community (twice for me, which is very sweet of all of you. Thank you.)

I disagree with Caleb on the llc being part of it, too. First off, why give those clowns any sort of power or whatever over people's lives? Second, I tend to think that the llc only has "deep pockets" because they have insurance. I think that the money is pretty much spent on the event every year, and they don't have a rainy day fund. I know Caleb disagreed with me on that. In fact, I would say he was a pretty good, possibly compulsive, player of "Spend Larry's Money", a game of looking at this (to me imaginary) pot of money and coming up with a way to spend it--in favor of you or your pet cause. Anyway, I think enough things are tied to the number of tickets sold, and at what price, and maybe it will get to be like airlines: baggage check in fee, early arrival fee, donate to injured burners fund fee, indian tacos for all fee. I did finally do the math (with Caleb's numbers for number of hours dpw works in a year) and find out that for a $5 addition to ticket fees, the dpw could be paid $8 an hour (which is a good wage in the area, I belive) for thier work setting up and tearing down. I never told Caleb, because the way he treated me--I wasn't going to do his homework for him. Also, I forget if I included costs like taxes and accounting. I may have just thrown a number in, or maybe not. Perhaps his movement might have been more successful if he had done it. I think "It will only cost you $5 to pay the people who sweep the line a living wage..." might have been a more tactically sound method, than trying to get in Larry's face and shame him. Or maybe not. There's a reason I'm not a labor negotiator.

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