Well said. I am friends with John. Hell, he was the minister at my wedding and we were just over at his house last week for dinner. How's that for full disclosure. I first went in 96, last went in 2006, brought an Art Car, and had a hell of a great time.

But still, it's very strange to me that especially here on Tribe no one is talking about the Larry vs. M2 thing. I'd like to know a lot more about that, personally. If anyone knows please share so that this isn't so one-sided.

You know, what's funny is that folks seem to think that John wants some 'piece' of Burning Man. As far as I know, he doesn't want anything to do with the event itself. He simply doesn't trust M2 or Larry to be the sole owner of the *name* and *image* of Burning Man. Seeing that they are now fighting over that, and pulling John into that arbitration too, John replied with this lawsuit. So either he wants no one to own it, or he wants it to go back to the three-way ownership and for the other two to honor the original deal from '96 when he left.

And for those hateful comments stating that John should 'get a life' or 'let go and move onto something else' or 'focus his energies at a more positive direction' well all I can say is that he's probably the most well balanced and rounded person I know. He's very busy with his new son, his book, helping his wife's business, and running his own business as well as lot of adventures. It's not like he's some bitter person with too much time on his hands. Go read his blog posts if you wanna really get a better idea of where he's coming from: johnlawspeaks.wordpress.com/

how about--Burmingham.

maybe it'll help with population control too.

Thanx Shooter, for injecting some humor into this latest negativity with this thread. Great idea !!!! (don't forget to patent and trademark when you're done)

Whatza "PBR" ?? Publicly Bitching Rogue? (Can DPW trademark that?)